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denphone 14-12-2011 10:51

UK unemployment increases to 2.64m
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16175309

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UK unemployment rose by 128,000 in the three months to October to 2.64 million, the highest level since 1994.
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Youth unemployment rose to 1.027 million, the highest since records began in 1992, beating the previous record set only last month.
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However, the rate of increase in the claimant count showed signs of slowing down.

Gary L 14-12-2011 11:08

Re: UK unemployment increases to 2.64m
 
They need to put a lot on compulsory courses. they don't get counted in the unemployment figures that way. and it would look a lot less to everybody.

maybe they already are, and that's what they mean by the claimant count showing signs of slowing down.

denphone 14-12-2011 11:24

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No matter what way we look at the employment figures for the people and families involved the economic situation will have a major impact on their families and loved ones and several years before my medical condition took over l was unemployed for a while and it can have a depressing morale sapping effect on you and your family and l do not wish it on anybody.

Gary L 14-12-2011 11:30

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I think that in a few years from now this country is going to be one where poverty is as common as what having a job once was.

there are going to be thousands more job losses, and I don't think it will ever pick up.

in the meantime we'll be looking at how we can cut cuts that have already been cut 3 times over.

it will be very depressing.

Arthurgray50@blu 14-12-2011 11:31

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The unemployment situation is a total disgrace for the coalition, and l blame them totally, for what they are doing with the severe cuts.

People that are made redundant, or laid off due to these cuts add to that figure, its no good members saying 'blame the previous government', its not there fault that the coalition are cutting everything going, its not the labour government making cutbacks in the armed services, the police, etc so that they can save money.

The coalition are blaming everyone else, except for themself, The course's that are being forced onto claimants are a waste of time, as l have been on them, all you do is sit in an office and learn how to write a CV or go cold calling on building sites, hoping that the company that will be there, will take you on in 12 months time.

The only way this country can get back on its feet, is stop giving contracts to oversea's companies, I was reading sad article by Paul O'Grady about the north east, who like the rest of Britain are proud people who just want work, sadly the coward of Clegg to stand up to Thatcher 2 and say enough is enough.

This country needs a government that will stop this mess.

Pierre 14-12-2011 12:25

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Of course when Labour were in power, they did such a great job in saving manufacturing jobs in the UK. Especially the North East

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...ndelson-rescue

Pog66 14-12-2011 12:59

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...okay Arthur - so wholesale nationalisation to enable the "country" to choose who they give contracts too then? How does that get paid for then?

Paul O'Grady? Lily Savage's view on unemployment in teh North East? Please provide a link I'm intrigued.

I agree on one thing - we do need a government who can sort out this mess and I'll go for the lesser of the two evils and stick with the current one.

Arthurgray50@blu 14-12-2011 14:31

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Pog66, It was a centre fold in The Daily Mirror the other day, This country needs works, it needs a government that will ease stupid taxes ie vat, that is crippling some businesses.

Deb Meadon said this recently, this country needs to reduce vat, bring growth into the country, when she was on Tv recently, she stated with that Muppet Ken Clark sitting on the panel, the problem is that we need a government that will bring industry back to this country, and not have companies leave this shores due to high taxes.

At the moment, Puppet Cameron and Clegg are more concerned with other countries, then there own.

The North East is a major employer for factories and major industries, but now it is just a blip on the unemployment register - if l am wrong tell me.

Hugh 14-12-2011 14:55

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You're wrong, in so many ways....

How would the job-creation be paid for if we reduce VAT?

To "create" jobs, we would either need to seed fund businesses (which would cost money) or attract overseas investors with tax-breaks or rate-relief (which would cost money).

We need more infrastructure projects, but these have to be paid for, which would be difficult if we reduce the tax revenue coming in.

Dai 14-12-2011 18:28

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What Hugh said. Governments cannot create jobs, at least not the sort of jobs that actually make wealth for a country. All they can do is create an environment which assists start-up private businesses.

Unfortunately at the present time the obsession with EU regulations and environmental control makes it harder and harder to run a successful new venture.

I'd be happy to employ anyone who wants to work for the chinese or indian rates..

martyh 14-12-2011 19:51

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35345187)
The unemployment situation is a total disgrace for the coalition, and l blame them totally, for what they are doing with the severe cuts.

Arthur ,youth unemployment went up by around 40% under the last labour government so you need to blame the last government as well

denphone 14-12-2011 19:52

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35345475)
Arthur ,youth unemployment went up by around 40% under the last labour government so you need to blame the last government as well

Yes both governments are to blame and of that there is no doubt.

martyh 14-12-2011 20:09

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35345477)
Yes both governments are to blame and of that there is no doubt.

The difference is though Den ,the current government are reacting to Labours cock ups

denphone 14-12-2011 20:11

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35345496)
The difference is though Den ,the current government are reacting to Labours cock ups

l think we will have to agree to disagree on that Martyh.:)

Dai 14-12-2011 20:30

Re: UK unemployment increases to 2.64m
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35345477)
Yes both governments are to blame and of that there is no doubt.

It's really out of the control of Governments, no matter how they like to posture. Globalisation has enabled corporations to move their manufacturing to the cheapest provider and other types of business are following that lead. We've all experienced off-shore call centres for example. And clearly many companies consider that an acceptable level of support.

Basically we're never going to have full employment for the forseeable future.


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