Riots - Page 50

**Hugh** · 10-08-2011, 13:09

I still don't see how you can state "nothing is being done" when there were over 1200 arrests and 10,000 extra police on the streets.

ymmv

Osem · 10-08-2011, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Russ

To call them 'UK riots' is inaccurate - that would imply the trouble is happening in other countries within the UK. It is not. The riots are (so far) happening in England only. To try to go one further and say it should be referred to as "certain parts of England" is nit-picking in the extreme, it would be like objecting to initially calling them the 'London Riots' as they were only occuring in 'parts of London'.

Had these riots been taking place in Swansea, Cardiff and Wrexham only the press would be rightly referring to them as 'Welsh riots' or 'Riots in Wales'. All we ask for is a little consistency.

Sorry, where did I say we, CF or the media should call them or this thread 'UK riots' or 'Parts of the UK riots'?

I merely pointed out that they're so far restricted to parts of England and made the point that we shouldn't tar the whole of England with the same brush as the vast majority of it isn't suffering any riots. I also expressed a hope that they wouldn't affect other parts of the UK but pointed out they very well could do as the same conditions exist across the UK. If we're going to discuss how the media and others refer to these things well I reckon the BBC, as quoted by Hugh, got it spot on but of course different media will have different standards and agendas and use whatever terminology they choose to suit their purpose. I really don't see that as nitpicking or being pedantic.

Gary L · 10-08-2011, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I still don't see how you can state "nothing is being done" when there were over 1200 arrests and 10,000 extra police on the streets.

There could be a 1,000,000 police on the streets but.. ok you win. everything possible is being done.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Sorry, where did I say we should call them or this thread 'UK riots' or 'Parts of the UK riots'? I merely pointed out that they're so far restricted to parts of England but we shouldn't tar the whole of England with the same brush. I also expressed a hope that they wouldn't affect other parts of the UK but pointed out they very well could do as the same conditions exist across the UK. I don't see that as nitpicking or being pedantic.

I heard that somewhere in Wales is part of it now, but not confirmed.

Osem · 10-08-2011, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I heard that somewhere in Wales is part of it now, but not confirmed.

If that's true then that's sad news.

Just found this:

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Extra police called in to quell disorder in Wales

http://www.newswales.co.uk/?section=...y&F=1&id=22093

Sounds like relatively minor stuff right now thankfully.

danielf · 10-08-2011, 13:31

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Originally Posted by MK1

I don't have a spare few hours to look at every post in this thread which is already 49 pages long. I looked at the previous 5 pages but then realised there's another 44 to go.

I know. It's a long thread. It was last posted on page 45 though (post 675 and onwards)

**Hugh** · 10-08-2011, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Gary L

There could be a 1,000,000 police on the streets but.. ok you win. everything possible is being done.

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I heard that somewhere in Wales is part of it now, but not confirmed.

Once again, you deliberately distort what people state - I didn't say "everything possible was being done", you stated "nothing is being done" - BIG difference.

And once again, when facts are supplied, you immediately bring your old friends hyperbole and talking-bolleaux to the discussion.

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 13:35

Fast forward to one minute innit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9560646.stm

"I'll keep looting until I get caught."

Osem · 10-08-2011, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh

hyperbole and bolleaux

Ahhh.... the ingredients of many an animated after dinner discussion.

Gary L · 10-08-2011, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Once again, you deliberately distort what people state - I didn't say "everything possible was being done"

I know. it was me that said that.

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you stated "nothing is being done" - BIG difference.

I know.

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And once again, when facts are supplied, you immediately bring your old friends hyperbole and talking-bolleaux to the discussion.

Bolleaux.

Osem · 10-08-2011, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Bolleaux.

Yes it's French for rubbish (amongst other things)....

**Mick** · 10-08-2011, 13:50

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Originally Posted by MK1

I don't have a spare few hours to look at every post in this thread which is already 49 pages long. I looked at the previous 5 pages but then realised there's another 44 to go.

I don't get why people view threads with so few posts per page. You can set more posts per page via user cp>options. There is only 25 pages for me in this thread and I could set it so that is lower still, makes finding posts far more easier.

denphone · 10-08-2011, 13:50

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I still don't see how you can state "nothing is being done" when there were over 1200 arrests and 10,000 extra police on the streets.

ymmv

Yes l agree with you that since the first 2 days things have been ratcheted up quite considerably by the authorities once they realised the seriousness of the developing situation.

Osem · 10-08-2011, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Mick

I don't get why people view threads with so few posts per page. You can set more posts per page via user cp>options. There is only 25 pages for me in this thread and I could set it so that is lower still, makes finding posts far more easier.

I'm one of those who obviously haven't exploited the full potential of the CP section so I'm off to do that now. TVM

Gary L · 10-08-2011, 14:06

Seeing as Dave is waiting till tomorrow when parliament sits around to give Dave some thoughts on what needs to be done. I thought as I've already predicted that someone would get killed through protecting themselves whilst waiting for Dave.

I'm going to predict that tonight maybe. one of these riot kids is going to be killed or seriously injured by a member of the public defending themselves.

thenry · 10-08-2011, 14:10

Hes going to get grilled. His toyboy, side kick wont offer him too much support neither.