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Old 28-05-2011, 18:10   #16
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Re: Thank You Virgin Media.
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If you dont believe the graphs, then from your PC

Go to CMD and type

Ping BBC.co.uk -n 1000

Leave it running and then go over it and you will see exactly how spiky you pings are m8
or do ping bbc.co.uk -t

leaves it running forever

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VM can't explain this to me but someone said here it's other users activity that affects my pings. That's annoying tbh that I have to suffer because of my neighbours. I don't download much, no torrents or big stuff, simple browsing and PS3 gaming for me but I still get affected by others who do
and that justifies 100mb broadband?
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Old 28-05-2011, 18:21   #17
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Re: Thank You Virgin Media.
Lol yeah m8

I figure that if I haven't got the "flagship" service then I'll be suffering. 100MB has been better for me than 50MB

The funny thing is that 50MB with 1.6MB upload was fine, then my line was upgraded to 5MB upload and things got worse. Since going to 100MB with 10MB it has improved.

But tbh, if I was closer to my BT Exchange I would go for BE Broadband ADSL as it's far far better for gaming if u aren't too far away (like me)
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Re: Thank You Virgin Media.
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Any company the size of VM will have a certain number of bad staff!
Sadly

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I was asking the topic starter to initiate a thinkbroadband ping monitor to see the quality of his pings over a period NOT just a pingtest result which is only a snapshot

I get decent results from pingtest too, but as you can see from my graph, the ping and jitter fluctuate. I have yet to see one single VM ping graph without jitter





Do you have a ping graph running by any chance? Or am I being cynical in thinking you would not publish one as it would highlight VM's deficiencies in steady latency
No, I'd be happy to post it, but I don't have it running.

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If you dont believe the graphs, then from your PC

Go to CMD and type

Ping BBC.co.uk -n 1000

Leave it running and then go over it and you will see exactly how spiky you pings are m8


My pings can be steady for a few hours, then jump around the 60 mark, then drop again

This happens even when I'm at work all day and nothing is connected to my Broadband service

VM can't explain this to me but someone said here it's other users activity that affects my pings. That's annoying tbh that I have to suffer because of my neighbours. I don't download much, no torrents or big stuff, simple browsing and PS3 gaming for me but I still get affected by others who do





If you look at between 2pm and 6pm, the service is top class, the single spike was a speedtest. I was gaming online without any lag whatsoever, totally smooth.
But it always changes to what you can see earlier in the day with the spiking.
Here's some pings, but the problem is I have two massager clients, firefox and several other programs randomly accessing the web ..


Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.254.251: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=246
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Ping statistics for 212.58.254.251:
Packets: Sent = 85, Received = 85, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 46ms, Average = 18ms


Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.254.251: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=246
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Ping statistics for 212.58.254.251:
Packets: Sent = 87, Received = 87, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 56ms, Average = 19ms
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Pretty good pings nopanic, a bit like mine tbh with the occasional jumps from 17 to 30-40

Not bad tho
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Re: Thank You Virgin Media.
Back in the day everyone used to envy me for having cable due to the low latency. Has something changed over the past year or so I don't know about? Latency still looks good to me - on ADSL the lowest ping I ever got on fast path was 35ish.
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Back in the day everyone used to envy me for having cable due to the low latency. Has something changed over the past year or so I don't know about? Latency still looks good to me - on ADSL the lowest ping I ever got on fast path was 35ish.
Ah but I'm on Infinity which is FTTC-same as VM!
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Back in the day everyone used to envy me for having cable due to the low latency. Has something changed over the past year or so I don't know about? Latency still looks good to me - on ADSL the lowest ping I ever got on fast path was 35ish.
yes the cable companies got taken over by virgin media and oversubscribed
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Right so is Virgin Media's pings still under 30 now-a-days?
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Right so is Virgin Media's pings still under 30 now-a-days?
So test it to find out yourself.

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 10 ms 10 ms router.pips [192.168.2.1]
2 16 ms 6 ms 16 ms 217.32.141.35
3 17 ms 18 ms 16 ms 217.32.141.62
4 19 ms 9 ms 25 ms 213.120.161.50
5 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 217.32.26.58
6 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms 217.32.26.182
7 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms acc2-10GigE-0-7-0-5.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.
248.206]
8 16 ms 24 ms 25 ms core1-te0-10-0-7.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
48.144]
9 23 ms 27 ms 23 ms core1-pos9-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.1
18]
10 22 ms 22 ms 28 ms 194.74.65.42
11 23 ms 33 ms 22 ms 212.58.238.153
12 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms rdirslb0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.136]
13 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms virtual2.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251]

Trace complete.

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come again?
Virgin Media have not bought any company! (NTL or TW)

NTL bought out TW and paid Virgin to use the name Virgin Media. Branson had a lot of shares originally but has sold the majority off.

Branson has never had anything to do with Virgin Media as far as running it!
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Re: Thank You Virgin Media.
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Virgin Media have not bought any company!
i never said bought, but "took over"

do you care to expand, im a bit lost still
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