Facebook...perhaps not entirely "right on".

[Ignitionnet]

Good old Graundian.

[dilli-theclaw]

"Fon't forget" - Oh dear.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't think he's had much sleep

How do you know that, You stalking him

[Sparkle]

I can't see why facebook would have any grievance with these groups, I'd have thought surely the government has a hand somewhere in all this?

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I can't see why facebook would have any grievance with these groups, I'd have thought surely the government has a hand somewhere in all this?

well of course you don't
you have to look at what facebook is for ,what it was created for ,it was not intended as a platform for extremist groups or activist groups

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Russ

So at this point is appears that yes those pages were suspended but so were others. Some will shout "conspiracy!!", others will say "nothing to see here".

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I can't see why facebook would have any grievance with these groups, I'd have thought surely the government has a hand somewhere in all this?

Originally Posted by martyh

Indeed ,all the activist pages need to remember that they are breaking Facebooks T&C's so don't have an argument really ,and as has been mentioned it is a privately owned site and as such can shut down what they like and have whatever content they like within the law ,as indeed this site can

Russ was correct then.

[admars]

facebook does seem to be very heavy handed

Facebook shoots first, ignores questions later; account lock-out attack works (Update X)

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...tack-works.ars

Got enemies on Facebook? Facebook is so eager to protect copyright that the mere accusation of copyright infringement is enough to get an account locked. Ars found this out the hard way Thursday morning when our own Facebook page became inaccessible, with no warning, no explanation, and no clear appeal process.

Originally Posted by admars

facebook does seem to be very heavy handed

Facebook shoots first, ignores questions later; account lock-out attack works (Update X)

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...tack-works.ars

can you blame them given all the bad publicity they get when some idiot or a group of idiots abuse the site

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I can't see why facebook would have any grievance with these groups, I'd have thought surely the government has a hand somewhere in all this?

Well you would, wouldn't you.

And if Facebook has decided to 'censor' certain accounts, what of it? It is a privately owned and operated website. The only way to exercise free speech on the internet is to set up your own website. Twas ever thus, and quite rightly so.

[Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Chris

Well you would, wouldn't you.

And if Facebook has decided to 'censor' certain accounts, what of it? It is a privately owned and operated website. The only way to exercise free speech on the internet is to set up your own website. Twas ever thus, and quite rightly so.

I could tell you first hand accounts of things the police and goverment have gotten up to in the past, things that would make this look like a walk in the park. When you post things like that Chris, all it tells me is that appear to have a rather limited understanding of how this world really works.

Facebook doesn't have a grievance with all those groups, for instance what does facebook have against anti-cuts? (I'm well aware of the T&C, that isn't reason enough imo)
You just continue living in your rose tinted little fantasy world, enjoy it whilst it lasts. I'm not judging, I'd love to live in a world where there isn't police corruption or brutality, the government never spies on its citizens, and they never utilise the timing of current events to bury bad news, such as censoring of freedom of speech whilst the public is distracted by the Royal Wedding. I'd love to be like you and martyh and believe everything the government and police spoon feed to the public, but I can't seem to do that without switching my brain off. I'll work on it, any tips?

Ah, the old conflation of "not living in a paranoid fantasy world" and "switching one's brain off".

If only life were so simple....

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I'd love to be like you and martyh and believe everything the government and police spoon feed to the public, but I can't seem to do that without switching my brain off. I'll work on it, any tips?

Think outside of the box. I tried it once and everything was great

[Sparkle]

Can't be bothered with the pettiness today Hugh, I really can't.
There's a difference between accusing the government of a conspiracy, and applying a critical eye to everything we're told. I'm in the latter category, its a shame you continue to conflate (your favorite word?) the two.

This is the problem with CF, pettiness. My first post was intended to just put the idea out there that this issue wasn't strictly limited to facebook (though it may well be). I was hoping for an intelligent, perhaps informative reply - rather than a smug "Well, you wouldn't would you..."
It would be a nice day indeed when CF members would stop with the cheap points scoring and concentrate on intelligent discussion.
Who am I fooling, this is CF - nevermind, as you were, man battlestations

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I could tell you first hand accounts of things the police and goverment have gotten up to in the past, things that would make this look like a walk in the park. When you post things like that Chris, all it tells me is that appear to have a rather limited understanding of how this world really works.

Facebook doesn't have a grievance with all those groups, for instance what does facebook have against anti-cuts? (I'm well aware of the T&C, that isn't reason enough imo)
You just continue living in your rose tinted little fantasy world, enjoy it whilst it lasts. I'm not judging, I'd love to live in a world where there isn't police corruption or brutality, the government never spies on its citizens, and they never utilise the timing of current events to bury bad news, such as censoring of freedom of speech whilst the public is distracted by the Royal Wedding. I'd love to be like you and martyh and believe everything the government and police spoon feed to the public, but I can't seem to do that without switching my brain off. I'll work on it, any tips?

You and other conspiracy theorists have equated Facebook cleaning house ,closing or suspending accounts that break T&C's with governmental control ,spying and denial of freedom and speech .
Facebook closes 1,000's of accounts every day why aren't you up in arms over them ,shouting government censorship .
If you look at the details over 90% of the accounts affected have broken the T&C's by having the profile pages set up wrong ,they are using personal profiles to represent their organisation meaning they are open to public view and in clear violation of the T&C's
If you are going through life seeing conspiracy everywhere you turn then it must be a pretty awfull life you have .I am in no doubt that the government play a few dirty tricks and coppers occasionally go over the top but i do not see conspiracy in everything that happens .Sometimes Facebook closing accounts and claiming they break the T&C's is just that nothing more

[Sparkle]

Originally Posted by martyh

You and other conspiracy theorists have equated Facebook cleaning house ,closing or suspending accounts that break T&C's with governmental control ,spying and denial of freedom and speech .
Facebook closes 1,000's of accounts every day why aren't you up in arms over them ,shouting government censorship .
If you look at the details over 90% of the accounts affected have broken the T&C's by having the profile pages set up wrong ,they are using personal profiles to represent their organisation meaning they are open to public view and in clear violation of the T&C's
If you are going through life seeing conspiracy everywhere you turn then it must be a pretty awfull life you have .I am in no doubt that the government play a few dirty tricks and coppers occasionally go over the top but i do not see conspiracy in everything that happens .Sometimes Facebook closing accounts and claiming they break the T&C's is just that nothing more

I haven't said any of those things martyh, if you would stop trying so hard to pigeon hole me these discussions would go much smoother. I was suggesting that perhaps there's more to this than we're being told, I never stated it was so. There is a difference, a big one.