divided our society ?

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

I remember a few years ago I went up to Oldham to do an exhibition with work.

They booked us a room in a hotel.

Driving to that hotel was an experience. It was just like driving through a ghetto, or what i have been led to beleive what one would look like. We did not dare stop and the doors were locked. There were gangs openly on every street corner looking menacingly at us in my bosses Audi maybe they were 'well jelous' of the car who knows?

It was certainly intimidating. All I know is that you should not feel like that in your own country, let alone any other.

The hotel itself was fine, good food and drink, the bedroom window was a bit drafty though.

Yes it's quite a shock for people further South when they travel to the North-West, most people are totally unaware what 18 years of Tory rule did, unemployment is a terrible thing.

The New Tories under Blair did a little to help but nowhere near enough to make up for all the previous damage.

Thankfully we have nothing left for the present Government to screw us for, now it is the turn of the affluent South to feel the wrath.

[Ignitionnet]

Unaware of what much cheaper labour and imports from the Far East did anyway.

[PeteLockwood]

immigrants should be sponsored by a family and an employer, never be entitled to state benefits, pay higher income tax, if the law is broken then the entire family and the sponsor family be deported and also the employer heavily fined, all illegals should be rounded up and if they do not go home when asked politely... dont accept it... also any immigrant should not be allowed to vote, EVER or have any type of political job, also they must not bring there own ways and society here, they must integrate or be forcibly evacuated.

this country has been too soft for wayyyy to long, a hardline stance is now the only way

ps.. i live in oldham centre so dont tell me i dont know what i am on about or that is is too harsh etc

[Gary L]

I just banged the table. just incase you forgot

[Russ]

Yep and watch the NHS collapse as all the non-British employees leave en-masse, with a lack of properly qualified British staff try to take over their jobs.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Yep and watch the NHS collapse as all the non-British employees leave en-masse, with a lack of properly qualified British staff try to take over their jobs.

Have you seen some of these non-British employess working in hospitals as nurses or otherwise?

some of them haven't got a clue. it's shocking really.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I just banged the table. just incase you forgot

It's more enjoyable with a lady.....

(and less chance of splinters)

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Have you seen some of these non-British employess working in hospitals as nurses or otherwise?

some of them haven't got a clue. it's shocking really.

Australians and Americans aren't that bad, surely?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It's more enjoyable with a lady.....

We'll just have to take your word for it

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Australians and Americans aren't that bad, surely?

Probably not because our language is the same written and verbal.

No, it isn't....

[Gary L]

Ok....

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Have you seen some of these non-British employess working in hospitals as nurses or otherwise?

Yeah I have

Originally Posted by Gary L

some of them haven't got a clue. it's shocking really.

A lot of people I've encountered in the NHS have no clue, regardless of where they come from. Many of them are British national Pen Pushers.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

When you come to mention hospitals, most of the staff at hospitals, are normally agency staff, whcih work for peanuts and yet the agency get a fortune, this should be stopped.

I believe all governments that have been in power must take all the blame, each time they are in they say the same, but nothing is done, and this will go on for years.

Immigration will grow and grow, its no good putting a limit on it, like Cameron has said, how many will come through the back door, I would like to see all immigrants that come through into this country, be taught the fact that they are residents of this country and therefore MUST learn English,.

Originally Posted by slowcoach

Yes it's quite a shock for people further South when they travel to the North-West...

I must say I was glad to get home to be honest

I breathed a sigh of releif as we hooned it past Watford Gap services

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Russ

Yep and watch the NHS collapse as all the non-British employees leave en-masse, with a lack of properly qualified British staff try to take over their jobs.

So are you saying that if they stop immigration tomorrow all those already here will leave en-masse. Somehow i don't think so they know which side there bread is buttered..

As a solution lets start training those in this country without a job to do the jobs of all these people you say will leave en- masse. so allowing those out of a job who are on the dole to get a job . simples.

If those already here want to leave so be it.

[Russ]

Yes, because anyone can train to be a doctor, right?