Do you want this government out? - Page 5

Arthurgray50@blu · 06-04-2011, 09:36

I have paid a lot of tax into this damn government, within the last 18 months, and when they send MY money to various countries as a 'sweetner' l feel betrayed, as we are suffering big time, when other countires are growing at our expense.

Every service going in this country is effected, and now councils are going to charge for people taking waste to council tips, so councils are getting money both ways in the fact, you pay at the tip, and sell waste to recycling, and also totters.

Ignitionnet · 06-04-2011, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I have paid a lot of tax into this damn government, within the last 18 months, and when they send MY money to various countries as a 'sweetner' l feel betrayed, as we are suffering big time, when other countires are growing at our expense.

Every service going in this country is effected, and now councils are going to charge for people taking waste to council tips, so councils are getting money both ways in the fact, you pay at the tip, and sell waste to recycling, and also totters.

Compare what you've put in to what you've taken out in that period and see how you do before complaining about having paid a lot of tax in. Given your constant complaints about not earning enough for your work I'm dubious. The Carer's Allowance your wife receives comes from that same pool of tax you're paying into.

I would hardly say every service is affected, I'm sure Labour will be elected in 4 years with the promise of a personal worker on the public payroll to wipe each person's arse for them anyway so don't worry too much the real world where public services have to be paid for and the government can't wrap everyone up in cotton wool and bubble wrap won't bite for too long.

I appreciate that, in the interim, some of us may not be able to afford to have both cable and Sky.

No-one ever said we were entitled to have our quality of life only improve, the previous decade's improvements are almost totally an illusion, getting some substance behind that illusion isn't going to be pleasant.

Have you considered emigration?

Chrysalis · 06-04-2011, 20:02

Bizzarely the pakistan thread got closed. So will comment here as still some relevance.

Cameron seems to want himself out, how did it compute that by sending over half a billion to another country would go down well with people? even his own party are saying its nuts.

Thats 650million that could have been not cut from social services, welfare etc.

Derek · 06-04-2011, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Cameron seems to want himself out, how did it compute that by sending over half a billion to another country would go down well with people? even his own party are saying its nuts.

Thats 650million that could have been not cut from social services, welfare etc.

The money going to Pakistan is coming from the existing International aid budget and not from other areas. I believe the UK has commitments that a certain percentage of its GDP goes to international aid each year so the money wasn't going to moved to another area without some moans.

Chrysalis · 06-04-2011, 20:17

yes and that budget in all honesty should have been canned. The fact it got ringfenced means ultimately other budgets suffered.

Gary L · 06-04-2011, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Bizzarely the pakistan thread got closed. So will comment here as still some relevance.

Cameron seems to want himself out, how did it compute that by sending over half a billion to another country would go down well with people? even his own party are saying its nuts.

Thats 650million that could have been not cut from social services, welfare etc.

I know. it doesn't matter where the money came from or this and that. all that people will see is that severe cuts to services are being made, hundreds and thousands are losing their jobs, and people are having less money. and they see this plonker who did all this go and give over half a billion pounds away to another country.

Chrysalis · 06-04-2011, 20:23

payment for services rendered against taliban? pakistan is hardly poor, seems more like a bribe of some sort.

Ignitionnet · 06-04-2011, 20:33

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payment for services rendered against taliban? pakistan is hardly poor, seems more like a bribe of some sort.

GDP (PPP) 2010 estimate
- Total $451.972 billion
- Per capita $2,713

Of course it's a bribe of some sort, that's how international politics works, though given how much you want to redistribute wealth from rich to poor purely for reasons of equality I'd have thought you'd be all in favour.

UK:

GDP (PPP) 2009 estimate
- Total $2.139 trillion
- Per capita $35,082

Gary L · 06-04-2011, 20:33

I think Dave will be the first PM to be thrown out by public protest. as soon as summer this year probably.

Chrysalis · 06-04-2011, 20:34

not worldwide. This government has been elected by the people in this country not pakistan.

Derek · 06-04-2011, 20:37

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I think Dave will be the first PM to be thrown out by public protest. as soon as summer this year probably.

Seriously?

For all their bluster and moaning the anti-cuts demo attracted only slightly more than the people who marched in protest against the hunting ban in 2002.

As far as I'm concerned the far bigger issue is the debt and deficit and I'm not dumb enough to buy into the magic bean theory spouted by labour that if we just ignore it the problem will go away.

Ignitionnet · 06-04-2011, 20:39

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not worldwide. This government has been elected by the people in this country not pakistan.

Oddly I don't remember redistribution of my wealth, as an upper-middle class worker, as being a manifesto pledge or a policy.

This government has been elected to execute UK policy at home and abroad, to suggest that the government has been elected purely for domestic policy totally foregoes any international policy.

Osem · 06-04-2011, 20:40

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Seriously?

For all their bluster and moaning the anti-cuts demo attracted only slightly more than the people who marched in protest against the hunting ban in 2002.

As far as I'm concerned the far bigger issue is the debt and deficit and I'm not dumb enough to buy into the magic bean theory spouted by labour that if we just ignore it the problem will go away.

Ignitionnet · 06-04-2011, 20:41

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I think Dave will be the first PM to be thrown out by public protest. as soon as summer this year probably.

You can come heckle me while I'm on this Gary

Sadly obviously not as well attended as the anti-cuts protest as no union backing and no mass of public sector workers protesting to try and preserve their jobs.

Gary L · 06-04-2011, 20:44

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Seriously?

Winter, before Xmas?

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As far as I'm concerned the far bigger issue is the debt and deficit and I'm not dumb enough to buy into the magic bean theory spouted by labour that if we just ignore it the problem will go away.

But is Dave the right man to do it. is he doing too much in such a short time. will he ever have a day off. is he even sane?