Do you want this government out?

[Gary L]

Is this government costing you more money. are you worse off. are we going backwards?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Is this government costing you more money. are you worse off. are we going backwards?

Yes, yes and no.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Yes, yes and no.

Would you fall into the catagory of "Would you vote for a party that promises to make you worse off" ?

[Pog66]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Would you fall into the catagory of "Would you vote for a party that promises to make you worse off" ?

....and the alternative is?

I'm in the category that it doesn't matter because,

A) We are stuck with them until the next election.
B)Any other government will be doing pretty much what this one is doing.In a recession there is no escape.
C)Most previous governments have pretty much stiffed me in some way apart from the one that provided me with free further education.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Pog66

....and the alternative is?

I dunno..

Would you fall into the catagory of "Would you vote for a party that promises to make you better off" ?

[MovedGoalPosts]

Lots of parties make all sorts of promises in their election manifestos so that they appear electable. They then tear up that manifesto when in power. One only has to look at failings of the last government to see how adept they were at that.

The one thing this government did make clear is that there would be financial pain. They were elected knowing that this was coming.

Originally Posted by Rob

Lots of parties make all sorts of promises in their election manifestos so that they appear electable. They then tear up that manifesto when in power. One only has to look at failings of the last government to see how adept they were at that.

The one thing this government did make clear is that there would be financial pain. They were elected knowing that this was coming.

Elected?Not sure they got the clear and unequivocal result needed to claim an outright win.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Would you fall into the catagory of "Would you vote for a party that promises to make you worse off" ?

I would fall into the category of "The alternative will potentially bankrupt us, bury the following generations under a mountain of debt and cause us to lose what sovereignty we do have as the IMF are called in to enact a savage austerity package that makes what we're getting now look wonderful.".

I don't vote for pain but I'm certainly not voting for a party that will blow sunshine up my backside and borrow from our kids to buy my vote.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Elected?Not sure they got the clear and unequivocal result needed to claim an outright win.

So coalitions aren't elected?

Best tell all the countries that use PR and routinely have coalitions that they are being ruled by unelected governments.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I would fall into the category of "The alternative will potentially bankrupt us, bury the following generations under a mountain of debt and cause us to lose what sovereignty we do have as the IMF are called in to enact a savage austerity package that makes what we're getting now look wonderful.".

I don't vote for pain but I'm certainly not voting for a party that will blow sunshine up my backside and borrow from our kids to buy my vote.

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So coalitions aren't elected?

Best tell all the countries that use PR and routinely have coalitions that they are being ruled by unelected governments.

Just said there wasn't an outright winner..don't think I'd got that wrong.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Just said there wasn't an outright winner..don't think I'd got that wrong.

I don't think anyone claimed there was an outright winner either...

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

A re-run of 1979 under Callahans bankrupt Labour administration with rubbish piling up in the streets and the dead going unburied. The medicine was pretty aweful then for those who remember it. Took a decade of Tory administration and careful budgeting to get the economy anything near right. It also need the wholesale closing or selling off of loss making nationalised industries that were pulling the country down into debt and ruin.

I can remember the bad old days of Bristish Steel loosing £3 MILLION A DAY!! of taxpayers' money, BL always on strike, again at taxpayers expense. Coal mines producing output next to power stations that cost more than shipping half way across the planet from Australia. Plus a whole host of other nationalised utilities with their "couldn't give a damn" attitude to customers because there was no one else to go to and any losses, and they all made losses, picked up by the tax payer. Phones that took months to install and then you could ONLY rent the rubbish equipment that THEY provided.

Labour were going to cut to exactly the same extent as this co-allition, only they were going to drag their feet over it and loose us our AAA credit rating. So what you say, it would be easier, well when your morgage interest rates double in a year because the rest of the world won't lend us cheap money anymore, then you'll be squealing again. And then in years three and four the cuts would be much deeper than those of the current administration because the econonmy would have ground to a halt, killed by high interest rates.

Look at Portugal, last loan they had was at about 7.8% compared to the low rates we have here.

Correct. Some people really do need to wake up! We can't dictate to those who fund our state spending and unless we start tackling our massive debt they're going to start dictating to us in no uncertain terms.

[RUSTY]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

A re-run of 1979 under Callahans bankrupt Labour administration with rubbish piling up in the streets and the dead going unburied. The medicine was pretty aweful then for those who remember it. Took a decade of Tory administration and careful budgeting to get the economy anything near right. It also need the wholesale closing or selling off of loss making nationalised industries that were pulling the country down into debt and ruin.

I can remember the bad old days of Bristish Steel loosing £3 MILLION A DAY!! of taxpayers' money, BL always on strike, again at taxpayers expense. Coal mines producing output next to power stations that cost more than shipping half way across the planet from Australia. Plus a whole host of other nationalised utilities with their "couldn't give a damn" attitude to customers because there was no one else to go to and any losses, and they all made losses, picked up by the tax payer. Phones that took months to install and then you could ONLY rent the rubbish equipment that THEY provided.

Labour were going to cut to exactly the same extent as this co-allition, only they were going to drag their feet over it and loose us our AAA credit rating. So what you say, it would be easier, well when your morgage interest rates double in a year because the rest of the world won't lend us cheap money anymore, then you'll be squealing again. And then in years three and four the cuts would be much deeper than those of the current administration because the econonmy would have ground to a halt, killed by high interest rates.

Look at Portugal, last loan they had was at about 7.8% compared to the low rates we have here.

.....and then the banks would close the doors and say sorry can`t help your all a bad risk & we have directors bonus to pay.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Would you fall into the catagory of "Would you vote for a party that promises to make you worse off" ?

I did.

I knew the bills had to be paid, and the only way to pay them is to cut expenditure and/or raise taxation.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I did.

I knew the bills had to be paid, and the only way to pay them is to cut expenditure and/or raise taxation.

Well hold on tight then.

I bet there's not a lot left over to pay your own bills?

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

We are stuck with them until the next election.

Not if we have a coup.
summer's a good time for one.