NASUWT teaching union attacks school phone powers

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Caff

What if there are no lockers???

Like I said. if it protects the victims of bullying, then provide the lockers.

just like that thing about "if it saves the life of one child then it was all worth it"

[Caff]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Sorry but children do not need a phone in school..and when did we allow parents to start dictating about such issues in schools.
We are not ther for the convenience of parents,we are not paid child minders, we are educators and it's about time we are allowed to chuffing well be able to do so without the entire universe hanging over our shoulders going,you can't do that and you must do this and my Jenny needs that...Parents should stay at the school gates UNLESS invited in.

I didn't say that children needed one but many parents require them to have one on them for reassurance.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Like I said. if it protects the victims of bullying, then provide the lockers.

just like that thing about "if it saves the life of one child then it was all worth it"

It's enough for some of them to remember if they have their lunch box and PE kit in school let alone remember about a locker and code

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Tsk,tsk..just what the children would say.So typically teenager in attitude.

Bit along the lines of demanding that teachers should wear school uniform because the students have to..

No I say again mobiles are not needed by students in school and it's my last word.

But you agree that they need them before and after school?

[Caff]

Originally Posted by Gary L

But you agree that they need them before and after school?

I wish they didn't have to, and most don't. Working or distracted parents are a 'mare. Kids just like 'stuff'
Maggie and I are at tangents due to the difference in ages that we teach

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Sorry but children do not need a phone in school..and when did we allow parents to start dictating about such issues in schools.
We are not ther for the convenience of parents,we are not paid child minders, we are educators and it's about time we are allowed to chuffing well be able to do so without the entire universe hanging over our shoulders going,you can't do that and you must do this and my Jenny needs that...Parents should stay at the school gates UNLESS invited in.

I agree with you on this ,there is no need for a mobile in school at all and what we are forgetting is that most of the cyber bullying happens at home or to and from school not in the class .My 19yr old apprentice is banned from using his mobile at work ,i will tollerate being interupted with a tweet or facebook or a text from the bird he dumped on saturday ,he lives with my rule or he doesn't work ..simple,the same should apply at school imo

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Caff

I wish they didn't have to, and most don't. Working or distracted parents are a 'mare. Kids just like 'stuff'
Maggie and I are at tangents due to the difference in ages that we teach

She's the Mary Whitehouse type, and you're the Mary Poppins

Originally Posted by Gary L

Like I said. if it protects the victims of bullying, then provide the lockers.

just like that thing about "if it saves the life of one child then it was all worth it"

Why go to the expense of providing lockers to cover up a problem ,that won't cure it ,thats just trying to bury the problem it's attitudes and discipline that need to change not storage facilities

[Caff]

Originally Posted by Gary L

She's the Mary Whitehouse type, and you're the Mary Poppins

And you are...?

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Originally Posted by martyh

Why go to the expense of providing lockers to cover up a problem ,that won't cure it ,thats just trying to bury the problem it's attitudes and discipline that need to change not storage facilities

Yes. Space and finances are very tightly squeezed let alone supervision of them.

[QUOTE=Caff;35200924]And you are...?

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he's the Kevin or Perry type

[Caff]

[QUOTE=martyh;35200935]

Originally Posted by Caff

And you are...?

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he's the Kevin or Perry type

Gawd - got one of those still at home.
Where's me spoonful of medicine for that?

@ OP:
Testy ground and plain wrong. Youngsters know their rights and so do their parents. Lockers are not the answer - principles are.
If schools need to step in to educate children into a meaningful and rewarding and productive society then they have to. If and IF the children need to learn about a pat-down or worse then they'd better get used to it.

[dazzer89]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12868879



I'm inclined to agree..but then I was highly dubious about the idea of searching pupils for drugs and knives.

They shouldn't take their phones into class anyway so I can't see the problem. Would you take your phone into a interview turned on?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Caff

And you are...?

Just Gary

Originally Posted by dazzer89

They shouldn't take their phones into class anyway so I can't see the problem. Would you take your phone into a interview turned on?

I'm dubious about being instructed on how to behave as a teacher and what to do etc by the government whom probably won't provide the infrastructure to aid teachers to do so. .I'm in firm agreement about no child needing a mobile in school IF you had read this thread

Parents who don't support this will go out of their way to make it difficult and frankly most head teachers won't bother to do more than pay lip service to it.

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Originally Posted by Caff

And you are...?

Best not to go there.To do so is to invite infractions.

[Caff]

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@ Maggy:

"Best not to go there.To do so is to invite infractions. "

I accept the warning, and thank you.

Originally Posted by Caff

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@ Maggy:

"Best not to go there.To do so is to invite infractions. "

I accept the warning, and thank you.

now think of those poor soles that didn't get the warning in time