Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I. - Page 146

passingbat · 19-03-2011, 13:43

What extra channels are people suggesting go in this XXL pack?

denphone · 19-03-2011, 13:46

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Originally Posted by passingbat

What extra channels are people suggesting go in this XXL pack?

There is at leat 20 to 30 channels virgin could add to create a new pack, just look at Media Boys threads on Coming soon.

Chad · 19-03-2011, 13:47

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Originally Posted by richard1960

What if virgin were to carry the same amount of HD they do now on TV XL,but added quite a few more to a new pack for a small charge maybe Â£5 extra,so current subscribers would not lose out but could if they wanted to take the offer up to pay a bit extra for a lot more HD,just a thought.

What would happen if Virgin signed carriage deals with channels such as ESPN America HD, SKY Atlantic HD, History HD etc.... in view of creating a new XXL HD package for an extra Â£5.00 per month on top of the current XL charge but the majority of their TV customers shun the new package as they are not prepared to pay more for TV. Who picks up the tab? Do Virgin just absorb this costly error, or do they put all of their prices up to cover the costs? I feel if Virgin start throwing money at channels, just for the sake of adding them, it'll be all customers who ultimately pay for them, not just the ones who actually receive them in their package. Also if they did create a Â£5 HD package and you want all HD that Virgin has to offer, you'll have to pay Â£13.00 per month which I understand would make it the most expensive HD package in the UK, Europe and possibly the world. Even then you still wouldn't have all the channels that SKY offer.

SKY use the tagline "Believe in better".

Virgin would have to use "Pay more for second best".

The points raised in recent posts have pretty much been covered in the following thread all ready:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l-package.html

passingbat · 19-03-2011, 13:51

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Originally Posted by denphone

There is at leat 20 to 30 channels virgin could add to create a new pack, just look at Media Boys threads on Coming soon.

I was asking what specific channels the people advocating this would put in the XXL pack?

When ITV2, 3, 4 and Universal HD, Sky Arts come, where do they go; XL or XXL? They are all non premium channels.

TheDon · 19-03-2011, 13:54

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Originally Posted by denphone

There is at leat 20 to 30 channels virgin could add to create a new pack, just look at Media Boys threads on Coming soon.

You mean the 20-30 channels that are mostly free to air crap? Or the HD versions of existing channels which would go against their "we don't charge you for HD"?

19-03-2011, 13:55

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Originally Posted by Chad

It's a good idea in principle however I can't see Virgin ever going down that road. What happens if Virgin sign deals to secure all of these extra HD channels however the new Â£5 extra HD package isn't a success? Who then has to pay to cover the costs of securing these channels? I'll end up that prices go up across the board to make sure Virgin don't make a loss. Also if you want all HD that Virgin has to offer, you'll have to pay Â£13.00 per month which I understand would make it the most expensive HD package in the UK, Europe and possibly the world. Even then you still wouldn't have all the channels that SKY offer.

SKY use the tagline "Believe in better".

Virgin would have to use "Pay more for less".

The points raised in recent posts have pretty much been covered in the following thread all ready:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l-package.html

Well yes you have ust pointed out the downfall in all of this i would be surprised myself if virgin had not looked into this one way or another,and reached a similar conclusion the only way i think it may work but this will not happen if like sky channels had to pay to be on virgns epg,but this is not compatible with virgins current buisiness model.

But getting lots more HD on the TV XL package is a no go as well without either a hike in price or virgin getting deals from providers that are ultra cheap to carry them, at the current price rate not a lot extra can be sqeezed into the XL pack.

Chad · 19-03-2011, 13:56

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I was asking what specific channels the people advocating this would put in the XXL pack?

When ITV2, 3, 4 and Universal HD, Sky Arts come, where do they go; XL or XXL? Thet are all non premium channels.

There is maybe on 2 channels that Virgin can get that would be classed as premium that would go into an XXL package. MGM HD and ESPN America HD.

What people should really be asking is what do Virgin do with the Â£49 HD activation fee that they charge? Is this money invested into the current HD channels they have, or is this being held to invest in future HD channels? If people who are taking HD are paying Â£49 for the privilege, this money should be invested in their viewing pleasure.

Just my very humble opinion. Seeing HD is free on Virgin the Â£49 they charge must be used to keep the channels free?

RichardCoulter · 19-03-2011, 14:23

I didn't check channel 0 on Thursday night as I was in bed, but there was nothing testing last night.

Perhaps the tests have ended, or been suspended for the weekend.

We already get the sd version of Disney XD, so I am assuming that it was the HD channel testing.

I think that the Sky 1 HD feed not on the EPG must be a test for a new Sky channel as, obviously, that is already available on VM.

pep4uk · 19-03-2011, 16:17

hi can anyone help me please
im trying to find out if virgin will be showing the masters in 3d and if there will be a charge for it
thankyou pep x

muppetman11 · 19-03-2011, 18:25

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Originally Posted by pep4uk

hi can anyone help me please
im trying to find out if virgin will be showing the masters in 3d and if there will be a charge for it
thankyou pep x

No and I can't see it being on anytime soon.

pep4uk · 19-03-2011, 19:05

ty muppetman just saved money on 3d tv lol

mersey70 · 19-03-2011, 19:09

[QUOTE=Chad;35195590]There is maybe on 2 channels that Virgin can get that would be classed as premium that would go into an XXL package. MGM HD and ESPN America HD.

What people should really be asking is what do Virgin do with the Â£49 HD activation fee that they charge? Is this money invested into the current HD channels they have, or is this being held to invest in future HD channels? If people who are taking HD are paying Â£49 for the privilege, this money should be invested in their viewing pleasure.

Just my very humble opinion. Seeing HD is free on Virgin the Â£49 they charge must be used to keep the channels free?

You will find if you ever downgrade from XL to M that even free HD like ITV1 HD isn't free anymore even though you paid to have V+ installed/activated in the first place, in their defence they did explain that though.

Media Boy UK · 20-03-2011, 11:39

No list update this week.

No list update this week as I only know one bit of news this week - BBC to keep BBC Asian Network on air.

I hope to have an list update posts back next Sunday.

http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com...air-after.html

NOTE: UK summer time starts at 2am on Saturday Night.

greeninferno · 20-03-2011, 11:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

I've always said it Sky strengthening makes VM up their game and vice versa so in the end it benefits the customers of both platforms , sure VM aren't perfect but neither are Sky.

Virgin are charging something like Â£4 less than sky for something like 20 HD channels less.

Virgin are at it.

passingbat · 20-03-2011, 11:57

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Originally Posted by greeninferno

Virgin are charging something like Â£4 less than sky for something like 20 HD channels less.

Virgin are at it.

Add a second HD box and see how that affects pricing; you add about 20 pounds to the sky bill and around 6.50 to a VM bill.