Students Rioting in London.

[Sparkle]

Originally Posted by martyh

lets see now my suggestion would be .....wait till he commits an offence or series of offences arrest him ,try him in court ,then if found guilty throw him in jail for about 7 years ....oh wait we did that silly me

i.e the status quo.
My goodness, a fellow human being who can't see the problem with the current system. Science should study you.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

and cannot consider that there can be any other,

That sounds familiar. but what usually happens is the other person usually labels them with the term racist, bigot, or a xenophobe. leaving themselves as the normal one.

Originally Posted by Sparkle

If your cerebral cortex were up to the task at hand, you'd see that I'm criticising the system which he and you defends with such vigor.

and me don't forget me .

Look we all know the system isn't perfect ,any democratic system is a fluid one constantly changing to meet the requirements of present day society .Our system has undergone many changes over the last 30yrs or so mainly because the citizens have the right to question it and the government that implement it .If you don't like that or want that right removed so that we can deport anyone we don't like or speaks out against the government then i can furnish you with a list of countries that don't have any of our rights and don't allow anyone to question the system or government, would you be happier living in one of those?.
You say that you are criticising the system ,you have that right ,that is what Abu Hamza was doing untill he broke the law ,when he did that he was sent to jail ,if you do the same you will be sent to jail

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

i.e the status quo.
My goodness, a fellow human being who can't see the problem with the current system. Science should study you.

enlighten me as to exactly what is the problem

Originally Posted by Sparkle

In this thread ? Not in the very slightest. I'll give you time to reflect over your comments and have a serious rethink. If the public could see the comments you've made in defense of the hook cleric, you would risk being lynched at dawn, freedom of speech or not. Your stance really speaks for itself, without help from me or anyone else.

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Deport him to Egypt, job done.

Originally Posted by Sparkle

Yep, the cable forum is the UK public...please pass the crack pipe..you've had enough.

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If your cerebral cortex were up to the task at hand, you'd see that I'm criticising the system which he and you defends with such vigor.

Really?

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Originally Posted by martyh

and me don't forget me .

Look we all know the system isn't perfect ,any democratic system is a fluid one constantly changing to meet the requirements of present day society .Our system has undergone many changes over the last 30yrs or so mainly because the citizens have the right to question it and the government that implement it .If you don't like that or want that right removed so that we can deport anyone we don't like or speaks out against the government then i can furnish you with a list of countries that don't have any of our rights and don't allow anyone to question the system or government, would you be happier living in one of those?.
You say that you are criticising the system ,you have that right ,that is what Abu Hamza was doing untill he broke the law ,when he did that he was sent to jail ,if you do the same you will be sent to jail

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enlighten me as to exactly what is the problem

I think the problem is that the current system allows people to disagree with him, and let's others do things that he doesn't believe they should be allowed to.....

Originally Posted by Hugh

Really?

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I think the problem is that the current system allows people to disagree with him, and let's others do things that he doesn't believe they should be allowed to.....

i see the old democracy and freedom is ok as long it agrees me line

Am I in the right thread, i thought this was about students rioting?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Am I in the right thread, i thought this was about students rioting?

Yup - If this carries on much longer it might have to be renamed "forum members rioting"..

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Am I in the right thread, i thought this was about students rioting?

According to some here no students have been rioting, just protesting exuberantly

Anyway AFAIK the next big protest is about the 28th of January. It'll be interesting to see if the sentence given to Mr Fire Extinguisher has finally caused the penny to drop that protesting is ok but when you get violent then 99% of the time the police win.

Oh bum - I am in London 27th and 28th.....

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Sparkle

Any one of them could be the next PM for all I know, but I seiously doubt they're students.

PS: the fact that none of you have commented on the students attempting to perform a citizens arrest is testimony to the fact that you see only what you want to.

The fact that you feel the need to say that says the same about you. I have stated that in this, I am on the students side, but that I disagree with those who are using it as an excuse for a riot.

Originally Posted by Stuart

The fact that you feel the need to say that says the same about you. I have stated that in this, I am on the students side, but that I disagree with those who are using it as an excuse for a riot.

Me too.

However have no doubt that the fact that students have finally got together to protest is a real indication of dissent and unrest as they haven't bothered for a very long time.In fact I was surprised at how little comment came from students when student loans were brought in, let alone any protesting about it.They were mighty silent on the whole.

I'm wondering what is different this time.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Oh bum - I am in London 27th and 28th.....

A word of advice - if a "student" says he's "throwing a cocktail party" and invites you, walk away.

[Cobbydaler]

Well, Charlie Gilmour's been charged:

The son of Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour has been charged with violent disorder during a protest against increased tuition fees in London.
Charlie Gilmour, 21, of Billinghurst, Sussex, is also accused of stealing a mannequin leg on 9 December.
He is due at City of Westminster Magistrates' Court on 10 February.

A mannequin leg?

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[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Well, Charlie Gilmour's been charged:
A mannequin leg?

Link

Lets hope the photographic evidence sees him jailed.

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Well, Charlie Gilmour's been charged:
A mannequin leg?

Link

I bet he felt a dummy......