Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I. - Page 42

howardmicks · 23-01-2011, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

After August it goes in to the Variety pack on Sky. All subs get it until then.

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Sky would never have agreed to that. Not for the VMtv channels.

VM got a lot out of that deal.

Sorry matey but after disagree,VM seem to got squat out of the deal.Yes they may have got hd premium channels but at a cost of Â£7 and lets not forget didnt get all sports channels,Sky 1 by time all the good programmes have been ripped away to Sky atlantic wont be worth squat either.Loss of channels and not getting new ones,Way its going the 9 year carriage deal will be worth squat either.About time Vm admitted they took a huge risk selling to sky and already we are seeing the results of it and its only january,Things will get far worse if murdoch takes full control and vm will have no power to do anything about it.Tivo aint gonna be worth squat if the channels aren`t there,I myself will not risk tying myself to a 18 month contract for it and spending silly money.

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Originally Posted by passingbat

How do you know? Sky obviously wanted the Virgin channels.

The question, that we'll never know the answer to is, did Virgin ever bring new channels up or were they so dumb, they didn't even think about it?

Lets face they were desperate to sell the channels,Sky new it and screwed them over yet again and vm still are not relising it.

Digital Fanatic · 23-01-2011, 13:17

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Originally Posted by howardmicks

Sorry matey but after disagree,VM seem to got squat out of the deal.Yes they may have got hd premium channels but at a cost of Â£7 and lets not forget didnt get all sports channels,Sky 1 by time all the good programmes have been ripped away to Sky atlantic wont be worth squat either.Loss of channels and not getting new ones,Way its going the 9 year carriage deal will be worth squat either.About time Vm admitted they took a huge risk selling to sky and already we are seeing the results of it and its only january,Things will get far worse if murdoch takes full control and vm will have no power to do anything about it.Tivo aint gonna be worth squat if the channels aren`t there,I myself will not risk tying myself to a 18 month contract for it and spending silly money.

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Lets face they were desperate to sell the channels,Sky new it and screwed them over yet again and vm still are not relising it.

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair Â£7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

clinteastman · 23-01-2011, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair Â£7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

Not to forget that cheque for Â£167 Million, VM got a great deal.

devilincarnate · 23-01-2011, 13:38

They could screw me for Â£167 million ( only joking )

Digital Fanatic · 23-01-2011, 13:40

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Originally Posted by clinteastman

Not to forget that cheque for Â£167 Million, VM got a great deal.

Yep, indeed.

VM are investing this back in to the network/platform. This year will be a another good year for VM and it's customers.

ianmac40 · 23-01-2011, 13:41

TiVo app for iPad seems to have been confirmed.

http://kreative-technology.co.uk/wha...a-service.html

Digital Fanatic · 23-01-2011, 13:41

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

They could screw me for Â£167 million ( only joking )

he he

passingbat · 23-01-2011, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

That would be business sensitive.

That's why I said we'll never know!

Digital Fanatic · 23-01-2011, 13:46

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Originally Posted by ianmac40

TiVo app for iPad seems to have been confirmed.

http://kreative-technology.co.uk/wha...a-service.html

yeah, Cindy Rose confirmed that too

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Originally Posted by passingbat

That's why I said we'll never know!

I know you meant that

VM know Sky are not to be trusted. They have form. They tried to strangle VM at birth with the Sky Basics row.

This is a long game for VM... there are lots of things planned for customers. TiVo is just the beginning of this

howardmicks · 23-01-2011, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair Â£7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

All good points matey and believe me i want to give my hard earned money to vm rather than sky,But i love my telly and especially american shows.Currently i am very concerned about the future of vm from a tv point of view,Sky is looking again to be getting far superior and leaving vm behind,VOD doesn`t do anything for me i have a V+ box i record what i want to watch and not really bothered about old shows but i know its is popular with others.Just tad disappointed that vm didnt pull out all the stops to get atlantic,Think it would have restored some faith with some of us subscribers.I have always supported vm and believed they would one day provide real competion to sky however the faith is waivering at the min.

passingbat · 23-01-2011, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair Â£7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

I'm interested; do you think Virgin ever do anything wrong?

Don't get me wrong, I think Virgin offer a good service, but you seem to defend every single decision they make. No one gets everything right.

devilincarnate · 23-01-2011, 13:52

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I'm interested; do you think Virgin ever do anything wrong?

Don't get me wrong, I think Virgin offer a good service, but you seem to defend every single decision they make. No one gets everything right.

He/She has to as per the brainwashing clause in the contract

Digital Fanatic · 23-01-2011, 13:54

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Originally Posted by howardmicks

All good points matey and believe me i want to give my hard earned money to vm rather than sky,But i love my telly and especially american shows.Currently i am very concerned about the future of vm from a tv point of view,Sky is looking again to be getting far superior and leaving vm behind,VOD doesn`t do anything for me i have a V+ box i record what i want to watch and not really bothered about old shows but i know its is popular with others.Just tad disappointed that vm didnt pull out all the stops to get atlantic,Think it would have restored some faith with some of us subscribers.I have always supported vm and believed they would one day provide real competion to sky however the faith is waivering at the min.

Would you have paid extra for Sky Atlantic? While Sky customers get it for nothing? (for now)

VM will have tried to get this channel, but getting something "at any cost" isn't something any business should do. IMO

clinteastman · 23-01-2011, 13:56

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I'm interested; do you think Virgin ever do anything wrong?

Don't get me wrong, I think Virgin offer a good service, but you seem to defend every single decision they make. No one gets everything right.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

He/She has to as per the brainwashing clause in the contract

What's wrong with somebody being passionate about the company they work for? To me that's a good thing.

devilincarnate · 23-01-2011, 14:03

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Originally Posted by clinteastman

What's wrong with somebody being passionate about the company they work for? To me that's a good thing.

It is a good thing, i was trying to lighten the mood