Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by mlayzell

The bit that makes me laugh, the Daily Telegraph have completly dug themselves a huge hole in this affair, namely bugging Vince Cable in a constituency surgery session!

Here here and from a paper that so called opposed to it.

[Henkesghost]

Originally Posted by mlayzell

It as far as I am aware just the HD one is exclusive, VM are going for the SD version.

Currently in talks perchance? Christ they must have some amount of staff, they seem to be in "talks" for month after month with no end product. As ever the poor relation tv wise

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Currently in talks perchance? Christ they must have some amount of staff, they seem to be in "talks" for month after month with no end product. As ever the poor relation tv wise

Must admit they do need to try harder when negotiating LOL :-)

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by Masque

Virginmedia is privately owned and construction was paid for by the owners unlike BT so it is quite unlikely that they will open their network to rivals.

NTL allowed AOL access to their cable network a while back.

[MutleyF]

Originally Posted by mersey70

NTL allowed AOL access to their cable network a while back.

True - I used to have this. However, unless I am wrong, did NTL place speed restrictions on them ? - I could only get a max of 1mb broadband with AOL - but at the time, I think 5mb was the max NTL customers could have

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by MutleyF

True - I used to have this. However, unless I am wrong, did NTL place speed restrictions on them ? - I could only get a max of 1mb broadband with AOL - but at the time, I think 5mb was the max NTL customers could have

I don't recall that but you may well be right. It does demonstrate that parts of the cable network hasn't always been a closed shop though.

BT has been privatised for around 25 years so I think there should come a time when they are treated like any other private company, maybe now is a bit soon though.

[Moonblade]

VDSL will be exclusive to BT. Sky will only have the old copper wire network. Ok for now, but will not be fit for 2012.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by mersey70

NTL allowed AOL access to their cable network a while back.

It didn't work very well for NTL at the time and I'm sure it's still the same. VM would make very little money out of wholesale deals. They have their pricing very low as it is.

They would still be responsible for the network, but without any real profit. It wouldn't be good for competition as it would lead to the downfall of the cable network. IMO.

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

It didn't work very well for NTL at the time and I'm sure it's still the same. VM would make very little money out of wholesale deals. They have their pricing very low as it is.

They would still be responsible for the network, but without any real profit. It wouldn't be good for competition as it would lead to the downfall of the cable network. IMO.

I think that might just slightly be over egging it myself!

In time I would welcome VM to be forced to allow competitors access to their network, maybe once they have finally haulled themselves out of debt.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by mersey70

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I think that might just slightly be over egging it myself!

In time I would welcome VM to be forced to allow competitors access to their network, maybe once they have finally haulled themselves out of debt.

Might be a very long time

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Might be a very long time

No might about it, it will be donkeys years yet but I wouldn't impose any restrictions on them until that point even though the debt is their own previous management's fault.

[Media Boy UK]

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[TheDon]

Originally Posted by mersey70

No might about it, it will be donkeys years yet but I wouldn't impose any restrictions on them until that point even though the debt is their own previous management's fault.

The debt isn't anyones "fault". It's a purely business decision.
Debt isn't bad, in fact I'd argue it's vital to the well running of any company. You can often gain a far greater return on cash at hand than you're having to pay in debt interest, so why would you pay down debt if doing so will make you less money? (Not to mention that having debt allows you to avoid all sorts of taxes).

Originally Posted by TheDon

The debt isn't anyones "fault". It's a purely business decision.
Debt isn't bad, in fact I'd argue it's vital to the well running of any company. You can often gain a far greater return on cash at hand than you're having to pay in debt interest, so why would you pay down debt if doing so will make you less money? (Not to mention that having debt allows you to avoid all sorts of taxes).

No debt can be seen as a good thing, the money you pay on interest could be better spent elsewhere!

But if you didn't have the cash to invest in the infrastructure (which enables you to get more customers, which in turn increases your cash-flow), the only way is debt.

It's how nearly everyone buys a house - they don't wait until they have saved all the money up.