Students Rioting in London.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The van had been vandalised for a couple of hours - I don't think they thought "must avoid the sticker", do you?

Shhhhhhhh!

You're giving the game away!

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The van had been vandalised for a couple of hours - I don't think they thought "must avoid the sticker", do you?

the sticker is old and weathered -did the students have Dr who and his TARDIS at their disposal to drag it through time , is it in the event horizon of a black hole ,does it have a flux capacitor under the bonnet
no i think its just a very old sticker - unless the students carefully aged and weathered the sticker as part of their rise to anarchy

[Derek]

Obviously from the Mets stock of vans suitable for entrapment then. It's the only possible explanation.

One way to check, there is footage of the van driving down the street before it breaks down. I CBA looking for it but if someone wants to check that and see if the sticker is visible they can.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the sticker is old and weathered -did the students have Dr who and his TARDIS at their disposal to drag it through time , is it in the even horizon of a black hole ,does it have a flux capacitor under the bonnet
no i think its just a very old sticker - unless the students carefully aged and weathered the sticker as part of their rise to anarchy

as it happens so do i ,i also think the van was a reserve van kept in the local pound for when all other vans are in use because of a large gathering of unruly people ...oh say a student demo..

(reminder....must stop inventing outlandish theories)

[vanman]

Originally Posted by Derek

Obviously from the Mets stock of vans suitable for entrapment then. It's the only possible explanation.

One way to check, there is footage of the van driving down the street before it breaks down. I CBA looking for it but if someone wants to check that and see if the sticker is visible they can.

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/11...t-met-baitvan/

Two very valid points from that link.....

He points out that most conspiracy theories on the web regarding the van didn’t stand up either. The van’s markings were not out-of-date; license plates had been ripped off rather than deliberately left off; the rust merely indicated it was an old vehicle.

But he adds: There is however a legitimate question of why the vehicle was not moved when, as our video seems to suggest, there was an opportunity to do so.

But one of the commenters on another blog (who is a police van driver) stated that there is only one set of keys issued, and they would stay with the driver - if he was called away due to, say, a bit a fracas happening nearby, the keys go with him - not saying it's what happened, but perhaps it's a possibility.....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by vanman

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/11...t-met-baitvan/

that vid doesn't work on my pc

Originally Posted by papa smurf

that vid doesn't work on my pc

That's the conspiracy trying to stop you finding out the truth.....


Mwah hah hah hah ha!!!!!!!!!

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

That's the conspiracy trying to stop you finding out the truth.....


Mwah hah hah hah ha!!!!!!!!!

impossible mate my pc is covered in tin foil even the aliens can't get at it .

[vanman]

take note they didn't put the sticker on the van at the time of this vid because the window screen grill would have preventing them putting it where the pic shows it is

[punky]

The conspiracy doesn't end with the police. It goes all the way up to the government! I mean they just built Millbank there where it could be ransacked and make the protests look bad.

[vanman]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

that vid doesn't work on my pc

The video is encoded in Microsoft Silverlight, so it might not display on Google Chrome and Safari browsers. Try Firefox or IE.

---------- Post added at 12:29 ---------- Previous post was at 12:23 ----------

Originally Posted by papa smurf

impossible mate my pc is covered in tin foil even the aliens can't get at it .

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you�

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Derek

Excellent. So as well as everything else you are you are now an expert on the costs involved with converting specialist vehicles for use and putting modifications into them like rear cells, and secure internal storage.

Well, I do have something of a working knowledge. I have been in the motor trade for many years (including working for, amongst others, Renault, Citroen, Mercedes-Benz, Toyota and Ford dealerships), particularly in commercials and I have extensive experience in conversions and have supplied security companies with converted vehicles. That van would reached nothing more than a thousand pounds (at a stretch two thousand if had recently passed its eight week safety check) if it came up on the block, even if a buyer could be found for it.

If the Met are anything like other forces their big vans aren't replaced anything near as frequently as their pandas or traffic cars and whilst the TSG might have newer ones the old vans will sit in a pound for a while until they are needed for a large demonstration.

The van had no number plates, had a "police aware" sticker on it and was covered in rust, looking at it, it is unlikely it would have passed its safety checks. Do the Met routinely drive around in vehicles with no number plates? That van would have been amortised a long time ago, therefore would not be worth anything at all to the Met.

Oh and if it was planned to have students scrap it why was the kit inside not removed first?

I must admit I didn't see any "kit" still inside the vehicle, I will have to take your word for it that it was there. What kit, in particular, are you referring to?

[punky]

Originally Posted by Derek

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragtag04/257872860/

Taken in 2006 showing an 'N' reg van still in active use and looking a bit shabby with traces of rust etc on it.

It's almost like your saying whenever the police need a monumental presence in the City of London for protests involving tens of thousands of protesters where violence is expected that the police would source and re-use older vehicles that aren't in day-to-day operation to help meet the demand?

Come now, now you're just being silly.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by punky

It's almost like your saying whenever the police need a monumental presence in the City of London for protests involving tens of thousands of protesters where violence is expected that the police would source and re-use older vehicles that aren't in day-to-day operation to help meet the demand?

Come now, now you're just being silly.

Yes, totally unbelievable...