Students Rioting in London.
22-12-2010, 17:05
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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am i watching the right video ? 14.04 is talking about kettling with the student union leader ,nothing at all mentioned about officers not wearing numbers
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its at the very end of the vid -as the session closes
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22-12-2010, 17:12
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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Well students are no longer rioting in London..Can we leave the issue now?
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I don't think this is the end, it looks more like the beginning :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...-movement.html
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22-12-2010, 17:31
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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its at the very end of the vid -as the session closes
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aaah gotcha ,cheers papa  that would be 01:08:15 then if watched in wmp
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Not at all .What makes the unions think that there working membership have the willing to go on strike losing hundreds if not thousands of pounds in wages ,losing their houses or getting in areas with the mortgage ,not having the annual getaway all for students who arguably don't have a case anyway
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22-12-2010, 17:47
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
Ah yes 14:04 going by the time code on the video, not 14 minutes in. It's right at the very end of the session.
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22-12-2010, 17:48
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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Not at all
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History will tell.
More "appalling" police behavior being reported in the news :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/de...olice-watchdog
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22-12-2010, 17:54
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
The winners write the history books......
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22-12-2010, 17:56
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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The winners write the history books...... 
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its all fiction then
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22-12-2010, 18:02
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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The winners write the history books...... 
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We won't be needing biased history books to explain what happened because we'll be living it during our lifetime, kapish?
By your smug tone, you sound like you're hoping the politicians win this one, is that right?
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22-12-2010, 18:27
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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At 14:04 minutes the numbers issue is covered.
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At 14:04 they are discussing kettling, not shoulder numbers.
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its at the very end of the vid -as the session closes
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Hardly concrete evidence really. He doesn't seem to know for sure, then changes his mind.
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22-12-2010, 18:35
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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At 14:04 they are discussing kettling, not shoulder numbers.
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Hardly concrete evidence really. He doesn't seem to know for sure, then changes his mind.
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...n-page-58.html
that was my conclusion
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22-12-2010, 18:39
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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Whats appalling about that ? all i see is a heavily edited poor quality video of rioters in a kettle .What the students need to realise i sthat measures such as these would not be needed if they could be trusted to act like mature adults and not smash the place up
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22-12-2010, 18:42
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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Whats appalling about that ? all i see is a heavily edited poor quality video of rioters in a kettle .What the students need to realise i sthat measures such as these would not be needed if they could be trusted to act like mature adults and not smash the place up
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does that apply to politicians as well ??
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22-12-2010, 18:53
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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We won't be needing biased history books to explain what happened because we'll be living it during our lifetime, kapish?
By your smug tone, you sound like you're hoping the politicians win this one, is that right?
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Assumption is the mother of all frakk-ups.....
"Biased history books" - those that don't agree with your viewpoint (and it's actually "capisce").
I actually work in the Higher Education sector, have two offspring undertaking HE (one 1st year and one post-grad) and I think what the Government is doing is detrimental, but I also think that the ongoing expansion is unaffordable, so it is a bit of a quandary
But what I do hope is that the rioters don't win this one - there we do differ.
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22-12-2010, 18:58
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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Assumption is the mother of all frakk-ups.....
"Biased history books" - those that don't agree with your viewpoint (and it's actually "capisce").
I actually work in the Higher Education sector, have two offspring undertaking HE (one 1st year and one post-grad) and I think what the Government is doing is detrimental, but I also think that the ongoing expansion is unaffordable, so it is a bit of a quandary
But what I do hope is that the rioters don't win this one - there we do differ.
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and what of the peaceful students do you hope they dont win this one ??
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22-12-2010, 19:15
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Re: Students Rioting in London.
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and what of the peaceful students do you hope they dont win this one ??
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I am not sure if there is a "win" - just less losing.....
Sometimes, in life, we don't all get what we want (or feel we deserve) - we get what we can afford.
As I said, I am in a quandary, as I don't think it is simple as either "side" make out - the present expansion is unaffordable (imho), but I think the raising of fees will discourage some students who before would have taken part in the widening participation of HE.
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