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Old 13-12-2010, 14:10   #481
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

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You have no idea what I am on about? why is that because it does not fit in with your contrived argument over the rock, that is him lighting a fire deliberately which is at least a public order offence.

Get real and accept other peoples arguments and the pictures of him doing the act and running away with a furled up banner.
No I don't. Why are you so angry? All I did was comment on the impression the picture made on me and of my perspective of his lack of understanding of the issues, after listening to his excuses on the news broadcasts. Meaning, I believed him to have just gone along for the ride, because it may have sounded like a jolly good jape. You then post about him setting fire to a door and for some reason you wrote, "as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter." I am pretty sure he knew what he was doing with the lighter, but I very much doubt he really knew why. I really don't understand your issue with that.
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Old 13-12-2010, 14:27   #482
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

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So when he tried to start a fire at the doors to the treasury as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter.


A picture paints a thousand words and the same pictures are in the Daily Express.
To be fair, it is the Socialist Worker* newspaper, so perhaps he was just trying to save people the pain of accidently picking it up and reading it.....




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Old 13-12-2010, 15:25   #483
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

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No I don't. Why are you so angry? All I did was comment on the impression the picture made on me and of my perspective of his lack of understanding of the issues, after listening to his excuses on the news broadcasts. Meaning, I believed him to have just gone along for the ride, because it may have sounded like a jolly good jape. You then post about him setting fire to a door and for some reason you wrote, "as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter." I am pretty sure he knew what he was doing with the lighter, but I very much doubt he really knew why. I really don't understand your issue with that.
Not angry at all just pointing out that young Mr Gilmore is not really that innocent.
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Old 13-12-2010, 16:22   #484
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Not angry at all just pointing out that young Mr Gilmore is not really that innocent.
I never suggested that he was, just that he was playing to the cameras a bit. This over-privileged idiot does not deserve any sympathy at all.
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Old 13-12-2010, 16:30   #485
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I never suggested that he was, just that he was playing to the cameras a bit. This over-privileged idiot does not deserve any sympathy at all.
Correct but what he does deserve is a sort sharp shock, A short stay in one of her majesty's hotels will do the trick.
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To be fair, it is the Socialist Worker* newspaper, so perhaps he was just trying to save people the pain of accidently picking it up and reading it.....




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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Just been on Sky news right now that the Met may consider using Water Cannons at future demos.
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

This would have been a bad move on these demonstrations.
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Just been on Sky news right now that the Met may consider using Water Cannons at future demos.



Excellent, That will deal with the little hooligans and put there fires out as well. They did say they did not want kettling any more
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

There seems to be some confusion in the reporting - on the Sky News site, it is stated that she said
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"As I speak water cannon has yet to be approved as a piece of equipment," she said.

"It requires legal and democratic oversight."

The Home Secretary also voiced her concern because the nation is more used to policing by consent and not by force.

"I don't think anyone wants to see water cannon being used on the streets of Britain," she said.
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Just been on Sky news right now that the Met may consider using Water Cannons at future demos.
I hope they also hand out soap.....
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

So, the use of water cannon is illegal and would need a full change in the law to allow it to be deployed. Hardly up to the Metropolitan Police Service then.
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So, the use of water cannon is illegal and would need a full change in the law to allow it to be deployed. Hardly up to the Metropolitan Police Service then.
Then they should get the law changed ASAP.

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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Aah yes, change the law to stop people protesting about laws being changed. That'll go down well. What about when it's something you want to protest about?
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Protesting should always remain a democratic right.

Violent and criminal and generally thuggish behaviour associated with the protesting is what needs to be tackled here.
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