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Old 12-12-2010, 20:39   #466
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It does look a bit suspect. I'm sure one of the photo-bods on here can confirm if it's genuine or not.

where would you get a lump of sandstone like that in the middle of london ...unless you've been pulling buildings apart
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Old 12-12-2010, 20:44   #467
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where would you get a lump of sandstone like that in the middle of london ...unless you've been pulling buildings apart
Presumably, it'll be easy to find in a photo lab?

Seriously: It may be genuine, but with the sand effect it looks like it came from a professional/commercial photo shoot?
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Aaron Porter seems to be adjusting to real world politics quite nicely. I heard him interviewed on LBC today and, from what I heard, his tone was a lot more moderate than it was on Question Time a couple of days ago. I wonder if he's realised that the students have lost a lot of public support because of what's happened and is consequently changing tack and moderating his tone in order to assuage the anger of the long suffering taxpayer who foots the bill for all this nonsense....
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Old 12-12-2010, 21:19   #469
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Presumably, it'll be easy to find in a photo lab?

Seriously: It may be genuine, but with the sand effect it looks like it came from a professional/commercial photo shoot?
The switched on togs would have known who he was and that is why there is a glut of pics of this idiot.

They don't get paid for pics of nobodys, well not usually.
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Old 13-12-2010, 10:13   #470
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Looks genuine to me.

The way he's looking at it, the way the light it hitting it.

There may be no ends in "some" of the fingers on the glove, anyone who's worn latex gloves to do messy DIY jobs around the house will know that the ends wear out and tear quite easily, holding and throwing a lump of rough sandstone, would easily do the trick.
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Whether the picture is real or not is immaterial, it doesn't escape the fact he was seen parading and goading the Police on some news footage, but worse of all, swinging on a Flag (causing it to tear) hanging from the Cenotaph and completely disrespect our War Dead Heroes, I'd say that is a lot worse than throwing a rock and causing some criminal damage.
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That's good photoshopping, They even did his eye's so he is looking at the stone.
Very good photoshopping. In fact I'd go so far as to say the amount of work required to make it that good would make it impractical for them to have produced the picture in a couple of days. Unless they had the facilities of a good post production/special effects house, which would be a little expensive just to implicate one student, whoever he is.
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

Looking at the apparent trajectory of the rock, it appears as though he throwing it behind him. If it is an unadulterated photograph, it is entirely possible it was contrived, perhaps at the behest of the photographer, pandering to an over-privileged fop, who really had no idea what he was protesting against.
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Whether the picture is real or not is immaterial, it doesn't escape the fact he was seen parading and goading the Police on some news footage, but worse of all, swinging on a Flag (causing it to tear) hanging from the Cenotaph and completely disrespect our War Dead Heroes, I'd say that is a lot worse than throwing a rock and causing some criminal damage.
I disagree. Nobody is denying that it was him who was dangling from the flag on the cenotaph (least of all Charlie Gilmour himself who has admitted to it). What's potentially at issue here is whether the Daily Fail are going out of their way to further implicate him in looting and violence towards the police.
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Looking at the apparent trajectory of the rock, it appears as though he throwing it behind him. If it is an unadulterated photograph, it is entirely possible it was contrived, perhaps at the behest of the photographer, pandering to an over-privileged fop, who really had no idea what he was protesting against.
So when he tried to start a fire at the doors to the treasury as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter.



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I disagree. Nobody is denying that it was him who was dangling from the flag on the cenotaph (least of all Charlie Gilmour himself who has admitted to it). What's potentially at issue here is whether the Daily Fail are going out of their way to further implicate him in looting and violence towards the police.
A picture paints a thousand words and the same pictures are in the Daily Express.
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So when he tried to start a fire at the doors to the treasury as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter.
A picture paints a thousand words and the same pictures are in the Daily Express.
I'm sure his lawyer will claim he was trying to read what's on the paper and was using the lighter for illumination.

He does seem to be getting deeper and deeper in the excrement as days go by. From swinging on the flag, to looting topshop, to chucking rocks and now arson.

Maybe he'll get his degree paid for after all as he's completing it from inside one of her Majesties fine hotels.
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So when he tried to start a fire at the doors to the treasury as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter.

A picture paints a thousand words and the same pictures are in the Daily Express.
Clearly Photoshopped or contrived.

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Looking at the apparent trajectory of the rock, it appears as though he throwing it behind him. If it is an unadulterated photograph, it is entirely possible it was contrived, perhaps at the behest of the photographer, pandering to an over-privileged fop, who really had no idea what he was protesting against.
Right.

If that's the case he's an idiot. Have the standards at Oxbridge dropped that much?
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So when he tried to start a fire at the doors to the treasury as per this photo he did not know what he was doing with the lighter.
I have no idea what you are on about, the two are separate. How does him trying to set fire to a wooden door, prove that he knew why he was there?

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Clearly Photoshopped or contrived.

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Right.

If that's the case he's an idiot. Have the standards at Oxbridge dropped that much?
There is certainly no denying that.
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those gloves dont seem to have any finger ends to them and that stone looks photoshoped to me - i'm not defending him it just looks iffy .
Remember, long-lens photography distorts perspective - it makes objects look much closer together than they really are. The rock is unlikely to be as close to his head as it appears, so it is entirely reasonable for it to appear to be lit differently to the student.
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I have no idea what you are on about, the two are separate. How does him trying to set fire to a wooden door, prove that he knew why he was there?
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You have no idea what I am on about? why is that because it does not fit in with your contrived argument over the rock, that is him lighting a fire deliberately which is at least a public order offence.

Get real and accept other peoples arguments and the pictures of him doing the act and running away with a furled up banner.
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