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[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

I don't understand the comparison. Has this person committed genocide? That said, why should I still delight in the deaths of these people? They are human beings after all.

I'm not comparing them to him, I'm exploring your statement that we shouldn't be happy about the death of another human being. My point is that it depends on the human being who has died.....

[Flyboy]

Err, no it doesn't, all life is sacred, that is what it means to have compassion.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Err, no it doesn't, all life is sacred, that is what it means to have compassion.

All life is not sacred if that was the case we'd be eating carrots, and being over-run with vermin.... Not all humans are deserving of the same level of compassion or empathy. A thieving ******* comes way down my list of "people to be concerned about", while those people who lead more or less law abiding lives come closer to the top. And I'd suggest that most people with more than 17 brain cells think the same....

Even in a socialist eutopia (which I think you believe we should all live), not everyone, or everything is awarded the same respect. If you haven't figured that little truth out by now Flyboy, then you are doomed to a life of bitter disapointment....

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Err, no it doesn't, all life is sacred, that is what it means to have compassion.

No one made this guy climb into the electricity substation with a pair of cable cutters, nor did they force him to cut the live 30,0000 volt cable which then fried him, only his own sheer stupidity is to blame here.

If he wanted to provide for his family then he should have done as I and many others have done, went out and got himself a job, but no he choose the route of stealing other peoples property and because he was so stupid he managed to kill himself.

I therefore feel absolutely no compassion for a ******* who chose to steal as the easy way to get some money, at least he never caused another persons death with his stupidity.

Any thief who manages to kill themselves in the act theft do not deserve any form of sympathy or compassion from the general public as the vast majority will say that it served them right, because if they were not stealing it would never have happened in the first place.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Masque

No one made this guy climb into the electricity substation with a pair of cable cutters, nor did they force him to cut the live 30,0000 volt cable which then fried him, only his own sheer stupidity is to blame here.

If he wanted to provide for his family then he should have done as I and many others have done, went out and got himself a job, but no he choose the route of stealing other peoples property and because he was so stupid he managed to kill himself.

I therefore feel absolutely no compassion for a ******* who chose to steal as the easy way to get some money, at least he never caused another persons death with his stupidity.

Any thief who manages to kill themselves in the act theft do not deserve any form of sympathy or compassion from the general public as the vast majority will say that it served them right, because if they were not stealing it would never have happened in the first place.

You see, that's the thing about compassion, it's not something that one can pick and choose as to who, or what, you apply it to. You don't get that option, you either have it or you don't.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

All life is not sacred if that was the case we'd be eating carrots, and being over-run with vermin.... Not all humans are deserving of the same level of compassion or empathy. A thieving ******* comes way down my list of "people to be concerned about", while those people who lead more or less law abiding lives come closer to the top. And I'd suggest that most people with more than 17 brain cells think the same....

Even in a socialist eutopia (which I think you believe we should all live), not everyone, or everything is awarded the same respect. If you haven't figured that little truth out by now Flyboy, then you are doomed to a life of bitter disapointment....

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

You see, that's the thing about compassion, it's not something that one can pick and choose as to who, or what, you apply it to. You don't get that option, you either have it or you don't.

Right...... I don't have compassion for Hitler, 'Mr Toastie' etc etc so does that mean I'm incapable of compassion for people I do actually care about? Is that what you're saying?

[Flyboy]

Sounds about right. You cannot just switch it on or off when it becomes inconvenient.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

You see, that's the thing about compassion, it's not something that one can pick and choose as to who, or what, you apply it to. You don't get that option, you either have it or you don't.

If put up a poll on this very thread subject, I would not be in the least bit surprised to find that the majority of people voting would feel little or no sympathy and compassion for this thieving moron as he brought it on himself by attempting to steal other peoples property.

Very few people will ever feel compassion for a thieving ******* and most will feel that he deserved his fate.

Compassion must be earned and a thief can never earn it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Err, no it doesn't, all life is sacred, that is what it means to have compassion.

So being ex forces as i am can i ask a question of you.

Lets say i was in a postion where i was being shot at by a bloody big tank

what should i have done.

A. Said no i will not shoot at him his life is sacred and let him kill me instead

B. Pink mist him


Answers on a post card please or on this forum

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So being ex forces as i am can i ask a question of you.

Lets say i was in a postion where i was being shot at by a bloody big tank

what should i have done.

A. Said no i will not shoot at him his life is sacred and let him kill me instead

B. Pink mist him


Answers on a post card please

It'd be too late if you waited for a post card back

[Mr Angry]

Hi Marty, thanks for coming back - much appreciated.

Originally Posted by martyh

wow you really don't like being disagreed with do you ,well tough i do disagree with you ,

I actually like people disagreeing with me as it stimulates debate and, occasionally, encourages people to think outside of the box. What I do take issue with though is being misrepresented or misinterpreted (whether intentionally or not) which is what you had done in your previous post and which was what necessitated my reply.

Originally Posted by martyh

i have no respect at all for people who place their lives and others in jeopardy through their own greed and stupidity they don't deserve respect from anyone

This is a very, very narrow viewpoint and covers too many professions to even merit a full discussion. You are simply using what you believe to be buzz words such as "greed" and "stupidity" in an attempt to validate your prejudices. It does not work.

Originally Posted by martyh

i wonder if you would have the same forgiving attitude if it was your house filled with smoke ,or your babies cot that had caught fire or would you say "it's ok he was trying to provide for his family ,i know it's wrong but at least he was trying "

I've been very clear about this Marty - I have not been forgiving nor sympathetic in any way. These are emotions / sentiments which you repeatedly imagine I have expressed when, quite simply, I haven't. As such your hypothetical question and supposition as to what my answer might be are irrelevant.

Leaving aside the buzz words - if someone you held dear was killed doing something, whether illegal or not, how would you feel if a complete stranger was ridiculing their death and spouting vitriol on a public forum? You see my difficulty here is why, and for what reason, you continue to chant your mantra and express your delight at someones demise / death. It takes a particular mindset to do that in the manner in which you have done.

Rather predictably you lay yourself bare with your next paragraph.

Originally Posted by martyh

and for your future information i have been around wasters like these all my life i grew up around them and still live amongst them the difference is i don't behave like them ,people like them just don't care about anything apart themselves , they would steal of their own mother and sell it back

society is a better place for his removal from it

It obviously hasn't bothered you enough for you to want to better yourself by moving from such an environment. That said, perhaps that's why you have the attitude you have when it comes to the death of "people like them" - at least on an anonymous message board you can spout your vitriol with relative impunity. Its a different thing saying it to one of your neighbours whom you view with such disdain though, isn't it?

It's been fun Marty, now let's move along.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Thomas T

It'd be too late if you waited for a post card back

Edited it to allow another option

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So being ex forces as i am can i ask a question of you.

Lets say i was in a postion where i was being shot at by a bloody big tank

what should i have done.

A. Said no i will not shoot at him his life is sacred and let him kill me instead

B. Pink mist him


Answers on a post card please or on this forum

What colour of tank is it?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

What colour of tank is it?

i'd go for a Italian tank they have 18 reverse gears


and on a cable theft related note i went to sheffield on saturday night to replace a stolen 50 pair telephone cable got home at midnight -got told this morning it went missing again the next day, you just can win.