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[broadbandking]

Whilst I don't care that he died, I do feel sorry for his family.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

Whilst I don't care that he died, I do feel sorry for his family.

What if the family knew what he was up to and the risks involved?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by peanut

What if the family knew what he was up to and the risks involved?

Then that would make them culpable in his death, but I hope that they were not as stupid as he was.

[budwieser]

Just a quote?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Perhaps the context is a bit too intricate for you to comprehend Marty but no, I wouldn't want to knock your crown.



Currently it would appear that he died not as a result of doing what was required of him but rather as a result of doing what was required of him whist not employing sufficient safety requirements (common sense or otherwise) given the nature of the activity he was involved in.

On the matter of "doing what was required of him" perhaps the guy at the powerstation was attempting to provide for his children by stealing the copper? Who knows? Either way your crass indignance speaks volumes.

In any event I'm not seeking to belittle either death for comedic laughs nor, as you are given to, making derisory comments at the expense of someone elses dignity - or indeed the dignity of their families - simply because they lost their lives due to an oversight or lack of judgement on their part.



Referring to their father as "mr crispy" and making derisory comments about him not caring enough is a funny way of showing sympathy to his children. I'm sure, like the loss of their father, your "sympathy" is something they could well do without having to bear.

you need to wind your neck in and stop being so pompous

mr crispy died through his own stupidity end of ,lets hope his children haven't inherited his idiocy ,or we will posting about them in a few years time ,and using stupidity to provide for your family whilst endangering other peoples lives may be something you can justify but i don't

and whose dignity am i "seeking comedic laughs "at, the freekin idiot had no dignity or he would have got a proper job and provided for his family in a sensible fashion ,it's a shame the the other thief/thieves in the second case didn't fry themselves ,they are probably sitting at home planning the next one ,not caring who they could injure or kill for a few quid
so go ahead have all the sympathy you want for these numbskulls ,maybe ,since you're so much smarter than everyone else perhaps you could show them how to do it without frying themselves

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by martyh

you need to wind your neck in and stop being so pompous

I see you have a real difficulty with logical debate once your "hang 'em all" attitude is challenged, don't you?

Originally Posted by martyh

mr crispy died through his own stupidity end of ,lets hope his children haven't inherited his idiocy ,or we will posting about them in a few years time ,and using stupidity to provide for your family whilst endangering other peoples lives may be something you can justify but i don't

I didn't justify his actions nor did I try to justify them - that is something your overly furtive teenage imagination has dreamed up. I posited a scenario where perhaps the possibility that Mr Ehlert was actively, in his own estimation, trying to provide for his children by stealing the copper should be considered. That's why I included the question mark thingys (?), see?

Originally Posted by martyh

and whose dignity am i "seeking comedic laughs "at,

That'll be Mr Ehlert - whom you have referred to variously as "mr (sic) crispy (sic)", A "freakin' idiot" and a "numpty". Additionally in doing so you have celebrated his death, and exposed your absolute disdain for those unfortunate enough not to have a job by way of your spectacularly inept, yet insightful, assertion “and i will take delight in his death ,the freakin' idiot has served some purpose in cutting the unemployment figures and not being a burden on the state anymore ..good riddance to the numpty”.

Originally Posted by martyh

the freekin idiot had no dignity or he would have got a proper job and provided for his family in a sensible fashion ,

I can see you are going flat out to endear the unemployed members of the forum to your warm, glowing personality. That's a nice line in sweeping generalizations you've got going on there. Perhaps you'd like to introduce gas chambers for the disabled while you're jumping to conclusions as to peoples dignity?

Originally Posted by martyh

it's a shame the the other thief/thieves in the second case didn't fry themselves ,they are probably sitting at home planning the next one ,not caring who they could injure or kill for a few quid

Ah, the old "it's a shame....". Yes Marty it is, it's a shame you have nothing better to do than while your days away on a discussion forum wishing ill will on people you neither know nor care about just because of your preconceived prejudices as far as the unemployed are concerned.

Originally Posted by martyh

so go ahead have all the sympathy you want for these numbskulls

Again, nowhere have I expressed sympathy.

Originally Posted by martyh

,maybe ,since you're so much smarter than everyone else perhaps you could show them how to do it without frying themselves

You really should do something about that chip you have on your shoulder mate. Playground jibes like that bring nothing to the debate.

I had hoped to have a mature discussion on your ethical position on this but it's obvious you're not up to it.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

On the matter of "doing what was required of him" perhaps the guy at the powerstation was attempting to provide for his children by stealing the copper? Who knows? Either way your crass indignance speaks volumes.

He died because he was a moron trying to steal copper cabling from a live 30,000 volt electricity sub station which would have been plastered with plenty of "Danger of Death" signs in the immediate vicinity.

He caused his own death by virtue of his own greed and lack of common sense and I would feel no pity for any other person who died in a similar way way while attempting to steal.

The argument of he was only trying to provide for his family falls flat as he should have got himself a job instead of stealing from others, and if he had done that then this thread would not exist and he would be alive.

I quoted the wrong section, going to bed as obviously to tired.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Masque

He died because he was a moron trying to steal copper cabling from a live 30,000 volt electricity sub station which would have been plastered with plenty of "Danger of Death" signs in the immediate vicinity.

He caused his own death by virtue of his own greed and lack of common sense and I would feel no pity for any other person who died in a similar way way while attempting to steal.

The argument of he was only trying to provide for his family falls flat as he should have got himself a job instead of stealing from others, and if he had done that then this thread would not exist and he would be alive.

I don't think the sea cadet was involved in copper theft, either planned or (as you appear to have done) imagined.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Masque

I have not posted in the Sea Cadet thread and that was an accident where he died in less than 4 minutes doing what he loved, so no reason for him to be mentioned here in this thread, so check first before making a comment as I think it is a shameful and low comment to make about that cadet by anyone.

The post above was a general post with part of your post used as a sounding board.

Yes, and the part of my post which you quoted was specific to the sea cadet - hence my assuming that was who you were referring to.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Yes, and the part of my post which you quoted was specific to the sea cadet - hence my assuming that was who you were referring to.

I quoted wrong bit I think you can see they were unconnected so now corrected must be tired so off to bed.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Masque

I quoted wrong bit I think you can see they were unconnected so now corrected must be tired so off to bed.

Cheers man, no problem.

Me too - early start in the am!!

[speedfreak]

I blame Gordon Brown

Lighten up, no point falling out over a difference of opinion

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by speedfreak

I blame Gordon Brown

Lighten up, no point falling out over a difference of opinion

It was a misquote which is now sorted.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I see you have a real difficulty with logical debate once your "hang 'em all" attitude is challenged, don't you?



I didn't justify his actions nor did I try to justify them - that is something your overly furtive teenage imagination has dreamed up. I posited a scenario where perhaps the possibility that Mr Ehlert was actively, in his own estimation, trying to provide for his children by stealing the copper should be considered. That's why I included the question mark thingys (?), see?





That'll be Mr Ehlert - whom you have referred to variously as "mr (sic) crispy (sic)", A "freakin' idiot" and a "numpty". Additionally in doing so you have celebrated his death, and exposed your absolute disdain for those unfortunate enough not to have a job by way of your spectacularly inept, yet insightful, assertion “and i will take delight in his death ,the freakin' idiot has served some purpose in cutting the unemployment figures and not being a burden on the state anymore ..good riddance to the numpty�.



I can see you are going flat out to endear the unemployed members of the forum to your warm, glowing personality. That's a nice line in sweeping generalizations you've got going on there. Perhaps you'd like to introduce gas chambers for the disabled while you're jumping to conclusions as to peoples dignity?



Ah, the old "it's a shame....". Yes Marty it is, it's a shame you have nothing better to do than while your days away on a discussion forum wishing ill will on people you neither know nor care about just because of your preconceived prejudices as far as the unemployed are concerned.



Again, nowhere have I expressed sympathy.



You really should do something about that chip you have on your shoulder mate. Playground jibes like that bring nothing to the debate.

I had hoped to have a mature discussion on your ethical position on this but it's obvious you're not up to it.

wow you really don't like being disagreed with do you ,well tough i do disagree with you ,i have no respect at all for people who place their lives and others in jeopardy through their own greed and stupidity they don't deserve respect from anyone

i wonder if you would have the same forgiving attitude if it was your house filled with smoke ,or your babies cot that had caught fire or would you say "it's ok he was trying to provide for his family ,i know it's wrong but at least he was trying "

and for your future information i have been around wasters like these all my life i grew up around them and still live amongst them the difference is i don't behave like them ,people like them just don't care about anything apart themselves , they would steal of their own mother and sell it back

society is a better place for his removal from it

[broadbandking]

Originally Posted by speedfreak

I blame Gordon Brown

Lighten up, no point falling out over a difference of opinion

Its always Brown dam him *waves fist* lol