Mephedrone & "legal highs"

So here we have a number of members calling this youth with no evidence to prove what kind of guy he is.The whole basis of these judgements are the fact he took this legal drug.

So you guys doing the judging. Have you always behaved yourself whilst bladdered? never tried a spilff or maybe a bit of billy? lived a totally clean life ? if you answered no to all but the last question then fair play if you answered differently then you are a hippocrite

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Originally Posted by Derek S

It can't be that bad unless it stimulate Shatners Bassoon or make you cry all the water out your body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbq3kc29Tmg

The second it gets banned a minor change will be made to the formulation which will then take another good few months to be banned etc. If people are stupid enough to continue taking it after these deaths and testicular removals then banning it won't change a thing.

people still get drunk....

[Lord Nikon]

Actually zing, my previous post was entirely based on the actual USAGE of the term 'underclass' not an attempt to label anybody as such. The concept of describing someone as 'underclass' raised my ire on it's own although I did refer to inherited money wastrels.

My reasoning?
Albert Einstein - a patent clerk, certifiable genius, contributed a lot to physics (Even if general relativity is demonstrably wrong)
Thomas Alva Edison - used to sell candy and newspapers on a train.

both could be described as being from the 'underclass'

Conversely -

Paris Hilton - inherited millionairess, arguably 'priviliged' - famous for flashing, being on sex tapes, taking columbian marching powder, and having the intellectual capacity of a pickled egg.

it didnt aim it at any individual just those who have judged him purely by the fact he has tried this drug . Although I am sure they have staggered home on occassion perhaps singing loadly or disrupting traffic in a drunked haze lol

I to have come from the underclass and to an extent I am still in it although I no longer take illegal drugs although I have tried Salvia which is a legal high also

[Dai]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

The "underclass"?

I, and my brothers, came from "the underclass" (Govan in the 60's and 70's)

Sounds like we come from a similar background then, although my roots are London East End.

The key words here are 'came from'. You and I both had whatever it takes to escape and make something of our lives. The underclass I'm referring to are those without the drive or desire to do more than vegetate and live off our graft.

Originally Posted by DaiNasty

Sounds like we come from a similar background then, although my roots are London East End.

The key words here are 'came from'. You and I both had whatever it takes to escape and make something of our lives. The underclass I'm referring to are those without the drive or desire to do more than vegetate and live off our graft.

how do you know this guy isnt gonna find the cure for cancer or become the greatest world leader ever ?? you said " one less idiot in the gene pool" can I ask have you ever smoked pot?

[Dai]

Originally Posted by zing

how do you know this guy isnt gonna find the cure for cancer or become the greatest world leader ever ?? you said " one less idiot in the gene pool" can I ask have you ever smoked pot?

During a long and colourful life I have ingested, smoked and injected virtually every mind-altering substance known to man.

I have managed to do this without feeling the need to rip off body parts or kill and mutilate my fellow men.

I consider that my extensive experience in this field qualifies me to make an informed judgement, and I still think the guy's a ********.

Please remember the rules on swearing.We would appreciate you not relying on the swear filter to get you out of trouble.Thanks in advance.

this guy had a bad trip just because you have been lucky and not does not necessarily make you better than him although with all the stuff you admit you done you judged this youth with no evidence to support his character

I to have extensive experience and I have had a couple of bad trips in my life and have been terrified by them does that make me a ******** also?

[Derek]

A sensible suggestion?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...on-criminalise

One approach would be a new class in the Misuse of Drugs Act – the class D model, adopted in New Zealand to deal with BZP. This is a holding category where drugs can be put before they are well understood

[Stuart]

While I am in no way defending the use of drugs (in fact, I do not agree with the use of drugs), it's worth remembering that they actually cause far fewer injuries than either Alcohol or driving, yet these seem to be considered relatively safe..

[Spectato]

Also, we'll have to assume that all of these 'victims' took this stuff through their own consent.
As has been discussed, all that society can do to provide 'guidance' is to make these substances illegal, but even that cannot and will not prevent people from taking them, and occasionally dying, and even less occasionally mutilating themselves.

He wasn't hit by a drunk driver, randomly shot amid drive-by gang violence, caught up in malfunctioning farm machinery etc.
He chose to take a drug for a cheap thrill and got more than he bargained for.
Tough shizer!
It's not anyone else's fault but his own.

[LondonRoad]

legalise all drugs. Tax them like fags and booze. At least there will be some money raised to deal with users rather than it all go to the pushers.

[Dai]

alcohol and nicotine are drugs. There's no difference. In fact they are both highly addictive substances and only legal through custom and practice. If alcohol was newly discovered tomorrow it would almost certainly become a class A banned substance.

Legalise them all and tax them. In a free society everyone should be free to go to hell in their own personal way and that way at least they make a contribution financially for their welfare.

in fact less people would die form overdose if they all were legal as doses and quality would be monitored. All that making drugs illegal does is put the price up and put the business in the hands of violent criminals

[SMG]

It makes no difference what background you have, or what position you hold in society, if you take drugs & you rip your stones off whilst under the influence, its your own fault, no one else's.

To deliberately tear ones own scrotum off is not the work of a normal, sane person, hence, one less idiot in the gene pool.

people experiment and a bad trip is not fun there is no information on this guy and the story is 4 months old . I do not recall seeing anyone mention a follow up story?

Have you never done something and thought that was stupid ? People take risks all the time from jumping out of a plane to climbing a mountain to taking drugs even smoking a ciggarette. Do you smoke btw?