Mephedrone & "legal highs"

Welshchris · 17-03-2010, 21:09

The same drug that recienly cost the lives of two teenagers has struck again.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...rotum-off.html

17-03-2010, 21:13

november 2009

I wonder how many boozzers injured themselves or others the same time

Kymmy · 17-03-2010, 21:36

Actually there's no proof that the drug cost them their lives, especially as they mixed it with methdone..

I'm no supporter of drugs and also think that this drug should be classified, but I do wish that they wouldn't sensationalise reports to do it

Dai · 17-03-2010, 21:37

One less idiot in the gene pool..

**Paul** · 17-03-2010, 21:58

I dont believe he died ...

Dai · 17-03-2010, 22:05

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I dont believe he died ...

Maybe so, but will still be unlikely to pass on the idiot genes.

Peter_ · 17-03-2010, 22:42

A scrote now minus a scrotum, natures way of removing idiots.

SMG · 17-03-2010, 22:44

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Originally Posted by DaiNasty

One less idiot in the gene pool..

My sentiments exactly.

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One less idiot in the gene pool..

Derek · 18-03-2010, 07:16

It can't be that bad unless it stimulate Shatners Bassoon or make you cry all the water out your body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbq3kc29Tmg

The second it gets banned a minor change will be made to the formulation which will then take another good few months to be banned etc. If people are stupid enough to continue taking it after these deaths and testicular removals then banning it won't change a thing.

Lord Nikon · 18-03-2010, 07:21

Does banning any drug REALLY make a difference to it's use?
Cannabis - illegal, roaring underground trade, no quality control, gets cut with all sorts of stuff
Heroin - see above
Crack - see above
Crystal meth - see above.

repeat until list of prohibited drugs is exhausted.

Quite frankly all that banning a drug seems to do is help organised crime, since they become the main supplier and therefore the ones profiting from it.
The only way to remove a banned substance from circulation is to remove the demand, and we don't have a way of doing that yet.

Ignitionnet · 18-03-2010, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Derek S

It can't be that bad unless it stimulate Shatners Bassoon or make you cry all the water out your body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbq3kc29Tmg

The second it gets banned a minor change will be made to the formulation which will then take another good few months to be banned etc. If people are stupid enough to continue taking it after these deaths and testicular removals then banning it won't change a thing.

Why can't they just ban the drug and all analogs and similar substances?

Opiates are as a wide group either banned or controlled aren't they? You can't make a minor variation to morphine and sell it over the counter anything based on that structure is a no-no isn't it?

Derek · 18-03-2010, 07:40

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Opiates are as a wide group either banned or controlled aren't they? You can't make a minor variation to morphine and sell it over the counter anything based on that structure is a no-no isn't it?

I'm pretty sure each specific drug is mentioned rather than a blanket ban on opiates. Certainly diamorphine/heroin is separate from medical morphine or pure opium.

Not sure about MDMA/ecstasy, there have certainly been cases where people have walked from court when the drugs they have been found with were not actually ecstasy when tested even though they did have similar effects.

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Of course another option would be to legalise pretty much everything bar heroin and crack, tax it, enforce quality control and let people make their own choices...

Dai · 18-03-2010, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Of course another option would be to legalise pretty much everything bar heroin and crack, tax it, enforce quality control and let people make their own choices...

That actually makes sense on a number of levels. It should reduce crime as there would no longer be the need to raise vast amounts of money to buy illegal drugs. Also it would help to keep the underclass quietly chilling out on their settees instead of trashing each other in the city streets and giving grief to others.

**Hugh** · 18-03-2010, 10:12

The "underclass"?

I, and my brothers, came from "the underclass" (Govan in the 60's and 70's), and between us we became-
a) IT Director at a University
b) Director of Park Services for a major city
c) Electrician, and resident of Jersey
d) Engineer at a nuclear power station

It helps no one when a large number of people who do not have the abilities, drive, or luck to progress in life, are classified along with those who chose not to.

Lord Nikon · 18-03-2010, 10:18

I would argue that a member of the 'underclass' who has achieved what foreverwar and his brothers have is of far more service to society than an incompetent inbred wastrel with inherited money. After all, one who is striving to achieve is far more likely to contribute something worthwhile to society as a whole than one whose only contribution to society is monetary contributions as they purchase things and contributing to society scandal pages.