Should Scotland Devolve Completely? - Page 6

Russ · 24-11-2009, 23:56

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

From the hate I have seen from Welsh, Scotland towards English (and I am not saying it doesn't happen vice versa, because it does) I personally couldn't care if we was to part, I am English I live in England so don't really care if we are a union because we don't seem like it.

There's very little hate towards the English from us. There's a rivalry (see bottom link in sig) but certainly hardly any actual 'hate'.

LondonRoad · 25-11-2009, 00:23

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Perhaps we could pick one of the Scottish isles and let the SNP devolve that and live on it..

If push came to shove, it would be a sparcely populated.

I doubt even if all SNP members want independence.

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Originally Posted by Russ

There's very little hate towards the English from us. There's a rivalry (see bottom link in sig) but certainly hardly any actual 'hate'.

Agreed. It tends to be a competitive rivalry that does bond a lot of commonwealth nations. I have many English friends, I don't hate anybody English, but when England are in a competitive environment then I'd be supporting Wales/Ireland/Fiji/Tonga/Oz/Kiwis......etc.

It's probably smaller nation/support underdog complex for a lot of nations but in the UK I think it has a lot to do with the biased Press coverage. I know it's a bit of a running joke but it happens all the time.

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Russ · 25-11-2009, 00:39

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad

It's probably smaller nation/support underdog complex for a lot of nations but in the UK I think it has a lot to do with the biased Press coverage. I know it's a bit of a running joke but it happens all the time.

Absolutely and most of the time the English don't notice it. The 'Phonics are always billed as "Welsh rockers The Stereophonics" yet Chris Martin and co are never described as "English band Coldplay".

AndyCambs · 25-11-2009, 05:42

Should Scotland devolve completely?
If it wants - but then the Alien Act 1705 should once again come into force...

25-11-2009, 06:23

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Just wondering, with all the stuff about Scotland having certain powers that for example England doesn't, and the SNP apparently wanting a referendum on it, should Scotland devolve entirely from the UK?

For that matter should Wales?

Northern Ireland?

Should England go it alone?

Just curious what people from all parts of the UK think both of Scotland going its' own way and possibly things going further. Would Scotland benefit from it, would any of the other home nations benefit?

IMO it's Brown and Darlings dream to run the whole shooting match from Scotland.

broadbandking · 25-11-2009, 08:07

@London Road - are you saying if England are in a competive competion you wouldn't support them?

Derek · 25-11-2009, 09:10

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

@London Road - are you saying if England are in a competive competion you wouldn't support them?

I'm with Andy Murray on that one.

LondonRoad · 25-11-2009, 09:12

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

@London Road - are you saying if England are in a competive competion you wouldn't support them?

I'm saying that if England are in a competitive competition I'd be more likely (but not exclusively) to support the opposition.

**Hugh** · 25-11-2009, 09:51

I differ from Dezza and LR on that - if Scotland are playing England (at whatever sport we are best at losing at at the time), I will support Scotland; if England are playing someone else, I will support England.

Russ · 25-11-2009, 09:56

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

I differ from Dezza and LR on that - if Scotland are playing England (at whatever sport we are best at losing at at the time), I will support Scotland; if England are playing someone else, I will support England.

I have a variation on that - if during the build up to a football match the UK press is fawning over England and all we hear for days is "we're going to win it this time etc" then I'm more than likely going to support the opposition. However if the press just act normal and remember there are other nations in the UK then I'll probably be in favour of England.

But if it's rugby then it's Wales all the way, even if we're not playing

LondonRoad · 25-11-2009, 10:07

I did support England in 1966...

Derek · 25-11-2009, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Russ

However if the press just act normal and remember there are other nations in the UK then I'll probably be in favour of England.

Say Liverpool got to a European final (stop laughing, it might happen again) and were playing against a non-british team. Who would you support then?

The way I look at it I don't support England as they are Scotlands greatest rivals, not because of some deep seated hatred of the English.

Russ · 25-11-2009, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Say Liverpool got to a European final (stop laughing, it might happen again) and were playing against a non-british team. Who would you support then?

The opposition of course

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Originally Posted by Derek S

The way I look at it I don't support England as they are Scotlands greatest rivals, not because of some deep seated hatred of the English.

I think that's a pretty fair assessment

There's no hatred from me - my father's family is English.

Stuart · 25-11-2009, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Nidge

IMO it's Brown and Darlings dream to run the whole shooting match from Scotland.

Brown and Darling can sod off to Scotland. As long as they are not in power when they do so..

**Chris** · 25-11-2009, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Nidge

IMO it's Brown and Darlings dream to run the whole shooting match from Scotland.

Unlikely ... every Scottish leader since James VI has made a beeline for England whenever given the choice of ruling from Edinburgh or London.