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Ignitionnet 23-11-2009 22:10

Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
Just wondering, with all the stuff about Scotland having certain powers that for example England doesn't, and the SNP apparently wanting a referendum on it, should Scotland devolve entirely from the UK?

For that matter should Wales?

Northern Ireland?

Should England go it alone?

Just curious what people from all parts of the UK think both of Scotland going its' own way and possibly things going further. Would Scotland benefit from it, would any of the other home nations benefit?

RizzyKing 23-11-2009 22:16

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
I have no problem with any of the countrys in the union going it alone if they really want too as long as they don't expect english money to support them in doing it during and after complete devolution. Before i am classed as a little englander i am half scots and feel that we are both better and stronger together but this constant whinging from certain groups\people is getting on my nerves. Too many people in this country that cannot let the past lie and seem to have to have an enemy to hate even when there is no reason to and it would damage them but if they want out let them out.

Osem 23-11-2009 22:35

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
Definitely. I'd happily vote for an independent Scotland just to get rid of Brown and his cronies.

Derek 24-11-2009 00:34

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34914593)
Definitely. I'd happily vote for an independent Scotland just to get rid of Brown and his cronies.

You do know by doing that he'd still be in charge down there and we'd be rid of him. :D

Devolved powers to the regions - Yes.
Complete independance - No.

It gets too messy with things like armed forces, border controls (no sniggering at the back, there are some border controls in the UK. Its just they don't work very well), importing energy plus who gets control of oil/gas etc.

Earl of Bronze 24-11-2009 01:00

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
I, and quite a few other in Norn Iron still prefer to be part of the Union thanks very much. :angel:

frogstamper 24-11-2009 02:51

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34914668)
I, and quite a few other in Norn Iron still prefer to be part of the Union thanks very much. :angel:

Well said EoB I agree, as four separate entities we would all have a much weaker voice on the world stage, thats to say nothing about England keeping her seat on the security council.
Long live the Union...

Maggy 24-11-2009 09:34

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
After the history we all share and even the dna we all share I'd think it would be pretty petty to insist on complete devolution.I'm a mixture of Scottish,Irish and English myself and my children are also part Welsh........So whom would be devolving from whom?

Hugh 24-11-2009 09:41

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Born in Scotland, of Irish descent, live in England - keep the Union.

Derek 24-11-2009 09:47

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And possibly the biggest reason.

Alex Salmond is approaching the limit of smugness I can take without resorting to violence. If he gets full independence I might snap.

LondonRoad 24-11-2009 09:47

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Proud to be Scottish but I'm for removing borders not rebuilding ancient ones. I too am a mongrel having dna from Ireland, Scotland and Yorkshire. I'm not sure about Welsh but there is a Morgan further back in the family tree... and I do like a Welsh rarebit. ;)

Ramrod 24-11-2009 09:52

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Complete independance for all, stop giving Englands money to them and stop overseas aid while we are at it till we get ourselves sorted out financially.....

Derek 24-11-2009 09:59

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34914733)
Complete independance for all, stop giving Englands money to them and stop overseas aid while we are at it till we get ourselves sorted out financially.....

Question for you.

What part of the UK gets the most money per person?

I'll even give you a clue, it isn't Scotland.

LondonRoad 24-11-2009 10:17

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34914733)
Complete independance for all, stop giving Englands money to them and stop overseas aid while we are at it till we get ourselves sorted out financially.....

Statements like that do more for the nationalist cause than Alex Salmond ever could :erm:

Ignitionnet 24-11-2009 10:18

Re: Should Scotland Devolve Completely?
 
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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34914736)
Question for you.

What part of the UK gets the most money per person?

I'll even give you a clue, it isn't Scotland.

Did he say Scotland in his post?

That withstanding the four largest recipients of cross-subsidy in the UK are, in no particular order, Northern Ireland, Wales, North-East England and Scotland.

Derek 24-11-2009 10:21

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34914744)
Did he say Scotland in his post?

Nope. I'm fully aware that certain parts of the press in England portray Scotland as a land where any public service more than is given in England is paid for directly from the pockets of middle-england.


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