[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Without *sounding* like im trying to start something here as i'm not - l;earnt that lesson. I'm entitled to my "free" speach as long as they are within the terms of the forum - that said, I think this is a very touchy subject. RM workers want more, the "public" see a shocking service already and they collide. It's simple really.

Now onto the court issue. It seems to me a complete and utter waste of time. It seems this Union is pulling at straws. It seems, they are seriously trying to get under the nose or the RM bosses and seriously annoy them. RM will simply power everything they have at this, a team of barristars costing hundreds of thousands. Maybe, this union should stop and look at the bigger ppicture here. RM workers want more money and better standards, etc correct?

However, this union is forcing RM to defend it's self and waste alot of money at this court, that could be put into improovements. So is it a wonder, why RM arn't / can't do more? I'm I alone here?

You don't sound like you're trying to start anything to me!

I think spending money on the court case is something RM have to do versus giving a pay rise during a recession to their workers. They don't have to offer an additional payrise.
They do have to defend themselves, lest they lose by default.
(I also think it's probably cheaper to pay some barristers for one case, rather than an entire workforce more for years to come).

I also think it's rather irresponsible of the union to expect RM to allow the workers that caused the issue of a massive backlog, to be paid overtime while clearing it. This would only cost RM more money.

In fact, i think i do agree in a way with you, if only that the union is trying to cost RM money indirectly. (Or rather, that's what they're doing regardless of intentions).

[webcrawler2050]

Originally Posted by Druchii

You don't sound like you're trying to start anything to me!

I think spending money on the court case is something RM have to do versus giving a pay rise during a recession to their workers. They don't have to offer an additional payrise.
They do have to defend themselves, lest they lose by default.
(I also think it's probably cheaper to pay some barristers for one case, rather than an entire workforce more for years to come).

I also think it's rather irresponsible of the union to expect RM to allow the workers that caused the issue of a massive backlog, to be paid overtime while clearing it. This would only cost RM more money.

In fact, i think i do agree in a way with you, if only that the union is trying to cost RM money indirectly. (Or rather, that's what they're doing regardless of intentions).

Well it's true, despite their intentions of the Union they are indirectly, costing RM alot of cash and RM will defend and being a massive company will throw a specialist barristar for each subject - making a team who will without a doubt rip the Union to shreds. My point is, what the heck is going on?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Druchii

I hope they get laughed out of court.

Yeah because employment law is such a joke...

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yeah because employment law is such a joke...

Not that. It's the way things are going

They offer a service to the paying public, they should be allowed to keep supplying that service despite the backlog these disputes cause.
Now, they normally employ extra people at this time of the year anyway, so, what's wrong with hiring a few more to ensure that the quality of service, and indeed, of the striking workers workload is up to par?

I mean, if they are striking, they're hardly going to love an extensive workload due to their actions. (Am i right in thinking that they were complaining about workloads and the time it takes to complete their normal jobs?).

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Druchii

Not that. It's the way things are going

They offer a service to the paying public, they should be allowed to keep supplying that service despite the backlog these disputes cause.
Now, they normally employ extra people at this time of the year anyway, so, what's wrong with hiring a few more to ensure that the quality of service, and indeed, of the striking workers workload is up to par?

I mean, if they are striking, they're hardly going to love an extensive workload due to their actions. (Am i right in thinking that they were complaining about workloads and the time it takes to complete their normal jobs?).

They have employed double the amount of extra people, something seemingly at odds with RM's stance that business is poor don't you think and no they shouldn't be allowed to 'keep suppying the sevice' when a legitimate, legal strike is going on, workers in this country have precious few rights as it is without eroding their one real power.

[papa smurf]

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oc...-postal-strike

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I am a strong union person, but this strike is getting pathetic, How many times have they sat down for talks, several times and for what NOTHING, If talks are on offer, then sit down and talk and sort the problem, All the union has to do, is call off the strikes sit down and talk until a decision is made, l spoke to several postman today, and when l spoke to them, they laughed and said 'we are on strike Saturday' you lot are going to lose your jobs becuase of this silly strike, SIT DOWN AND TALK, AND STOP THE STRIKES.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu;34899665[COLOR="Red"

]I am a strong union person,[/COLOR] but this strike is getting pathetic, How many times have they sat down for talks, several times and for what NOTHING, If talks are on offer, then sit down and talk and sort the problem, All the union has to do, is call off the strikes sit down and talk until a decision is made, l spoke to several postman today, and when l spoke to them, they laughed and said 'we are on strike Saturday' you lot are going to lose your jobs becuase of this silly strike, SIT DOWN AND TALK, AND STOP THE STRIKES.

you don't sound like one , any hoo there talking problem is no ones listening

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I WILL support any strike action, if the strike is justified, BUT tell me what the strike is about, we have heard so many stories over the last couple of weeks, and today we heard that the latest round of talks lasting three days, is to reach agreement over what the new set of talks is going to be about, which sounds a load of cobblers.

According to the media, the RM WANT to talk, but the union won't WHY? the only people that are going to suffer is the postman, who WILL lose there jobs, if the RM lose the government licence, l believe in Liverpool a new company is delivering mail as a tester, if this is successful it will spread across the country.

IF talks are on the table, then surely both parties should sit down until the dispute is resolved.

EACH day l pass a picket line, l toot my support, and l will NEVER cross a picket line.

Well i am supposed to be getting a hospital appointment through the post concerning a new treatment but i guess that will be delayed now as while my local posties are not striking the ones up the road are and thats where it's coming from. Maybe i am being selfish but this is affecting people very much and sorry but right now having a job is more important then having the perfect job.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Well i am supposed to be getting a hospital appointment through the post concerning a new treatment but i guess that will be delayed now as while my local posties are not striking the ones up the road are and thats where it's coming from. Maybe i am being selfish but this is affecting people very much and sorry but right now having a job is more important then having the perfect job.

I suspect, as more people suffer this form of serious inconvenience, what public sympathy there is will be further eroded.

I must say that well known Tory privatiser Mandelson's doing an excellent job of being invisible right now.......

[wordfromdamuvva]

Am I right in thinking they have a backup workforce? Why not just give them permanent jobs rather than let them all go when the 'real' workers get a deal they are happy with? I don't think this is a time to be demanding things! They have a job and are still unhappy... sack the strikers I say - give their jobs to people will be happy with what they get. Anyone agree with me??

So far no one i have spoken with about this has any sympathy with the postal workers and actually i would say anger at them is the more common feeling regarding these strikes.

Our postie was out and about this morning, same as last week.

[wordfromdamuvva]

I have friends that are posies and they are not striking, as they work for a smaller office and cannot afford to strike...

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