[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread - Page 30

25-10-2009, 02:13

Surprisingly after speaking to local postal workers they also have no love of this strike and want no part of it with none of them apparently taking part in it. When i asked further they said all the things that are being striked about are already in place in our town and therefore they see no point in striking. Which if it is true and i have no reason to believe it isn't makes me wonder how legitimate the claim by the union are because i highly doubt our little backwater town has got anything before many other places and if local popstal workers don't see the point in striking how many others are feeling the same.

Osem · 25-10-2009, 10:23

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

It could also be the case that the postperson knows how inconvenienced a customer might be by having to go to their local collection / sorting office in the event that they weren't there to sign. Alternatively, what if the postperson saw that they were tax documents and having considered the deadline - together with the fact that there is industrial action going on, used his / her initiative to ensure that your neighbour was not further inconvenienced / fined?

Bottom line - if you arrive home and it's there do you throw a hissy fit at not having been asked for your autograph or do you recognise initiative when you see it?

None of the cases I've mentioned were documents which could have been identified externally. The most recent letter I referred to was a personal letter from an self employed accountant to his client - NOT an official HMRC marked letter. The two other cases I previously mentioned were also just personal letters. If our postman was so dilligent and caring as to act in the way you decribe, I really don't think he'd keep on delivering items that don't belong to us and posting our mail through other people's doors.

I think you're looking at the wrong end of the equation with respect. If a third party has paid RM to provide a service that should guarantee them proof of delivery they should get that service and not have a postman simply disregard that. As it stands the sender of those items who paid for the service has no proof that they were delivered because no signature was obtained.

webcrawler2050 · 25-10-2009, 11:09

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Like in any workplace I suppose, some will complain if the sun is too hot or the rain is too wet while others persevere under the most extreme conditions without making a whisper.

Is it me, or do you seem to be trying to jusitfy your strike with wierdness - simple fact, collegues at my work, don't complain about workload and condtions - if it's too warm, somebody will ask around "do you mind if i turn the air con down" same goes if its too cold. If there are lots of tickets, we all pull together as a team and crack on. It's really not that hard. In my eyes, it's about being proactive and getting on with your job in my eyes.

ZrByte · 25-10-2009, 11:37

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Is it me, or do you seem to be trying to jusitfy your strike with wierdness - simple fact, collegues at my work, don't complain about workload and condtions - if it's too warm, somebody will ask around "do you mind if i turn the air con down" same goes if its too cold. If there are lots of tickets, we all pull together as a team and crack on. It's really not that hard. In my eyes, it's about being proactive and getting on with your job in my eyes.

What you call weirdness I call human nature. People moan, simple really.

webcrawler2050 · 25-10-2009, 11:40

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

What you call weirdness I call human nature. People moan, simple really.

Nooo! I see "moaning" about things like - we ran outta milk & sugar. Not just pure and utter whining

ZrByte · 25-10-2009, 12:09

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Nooo! I see "moaning" about things like - we ran outta milk & sugar. Not just pure and utter whining

What?

webcrawler2050 · 25-10-2009, 12:10

Moaning isn't what you described - thats just pure and simple whinning for the sake of whinning.

ZrByte · 25-10-2009, 12:27

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Moaning isn't what you described - thats just pure and simple whinning for the sake of whinning.

So what are you doing on here? Seems like the same thing to me.

Raistlin · 25-10-2009, 12:29

How's this for a whine?

I'm sick of people dragging threads off-topic by taking lumps out of, and picking fault with, each other.....

Topic. Or I'll close the thread.

Turkey Machine · 25-10-2009, 12:35

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So what are you doing on here? Seems like the same thing to me.

It's debate. Debate is healthy. And with Rob's stern warning, I'll say nout on the issue.

When are the RM striking next week then? By law they have to give at least a week's notice, which they did on Thursday, so the earliest they can strike is this coming Thursday, Friday and if it's 3 days Saturday as well then.

webcrawler2050 · 25-10-2009, 12:38

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

So what are you doing on here? Seems like the same thing to me.

Very very healthy debate - I think I make a valid point to be fair..

ZrByte · 25-10-2009, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

When are the RM striking next week then? By law they have to give at least a week's notice, which they did on Thursday, so the earliest they can strike is this coming Thursday, Friday and if it's 3 days Saturday as well then.

That's right, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I think its network on Thursday, south of the country on Friday and North on Saturday.

Webcrawler:- Drop it.

Ignitionnet · 27-10-2009, 09:22

This should do wonders for the popularity of the strike.

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The Communication Workers Union (CWU) plans to go to the High Court to stop Royal Mail using agency staff to clear the post backlog caused by the strikes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8327158.stm

Druchii · 27-10-2009, 09:33

I hope they get laughed out of court.

webcrawler2050 · 27-10-2009, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Druchii

I hope they get laughed out of court.

Without *sounding* like im trying to start something here as i'm not - l;earnt that lesson. I'm entitled to my "free" speach as long as they are within the terms of the forum - that said, I think this is a very touchy subject. RM workers want more, the "public" see a shocking service already and they collide. It's simple really.

Now onto the court issue. It seems to me a complete and utter waste of time. It seems this Union is pulling at straws. It seems, they are seriously trying to get under the nose or the RM bosses and seriously annoy them. RM will simply power everything they have at this, a team of barristars costing hundreds of thousands. Maybe, this union should stop and look at the bigger ppicture here. RM workers want more money and better standards, etc correct?

However, this union is forcing RM to defend it's self and waste alot of money at this court, that could be put into improovements. So is it a wonder, why RM arn't / can't do more? I'm I alone here?