[Update] BNP on Question Time this week

Apparently Nick Griffin got a rough ride. He had to defend various racist statements he made in the past, asked direct questions he couldn't worm out of. Didn't deny he was a holocaust denier and said Churchill was Homophobic which didn't go down well.

of course that it won't change the mind of his fans. Many of whom probably agree with him on all that. It should hopefully reach some people though.

(According to Twitter)

[Mr Angry]

He certainly rocked Jack Straw's little world.

I saw some clips on the news. It did appear to dodged the Holocaust question. Instead saying "I do not have a conviction for Holocaust denial" but not actually saying he didn't deny it.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8321157.stm

What struck me from that video, is how nice the protesters were. They were not violent, they caused some mild disruption, which is the aim of protest. They even helped a police officer to climb up the gate when he couldn't get through the crowds. So, success all round really.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

All I can say Osem, is that your wife has been extremely lucky.

That's possble of course. On the other hand the fact that so many of her foreign friends have done exactly the same thing for the same reasons and without problems would seem to indicate that her experience of life in the UK isn't as unusual as some like to make out.

[Hiroki]

Can anyone tell me when this question time being aired please?

Originally Posted by Gary L

We're keeping with the 'someone will say is it ok for me to say how unhappy I am about something to do with immigrants?'
and getting the typical PC reaction of "All immigrants, including Aussies/Canadians/Kiwis etc, and those really helpful Poles who do such a good job nearly all of the time?"

Because it's not funny to you, and the other he must be "I'm not a racist, but.." to someone else maybe, but let people be their own judge.

Gary, you seem to have been attending the Nick Griffin School for dissimulation and diversionary tactics - it isn't, and shouldn't be, regarded as racist to discuss the issues that immigration may be causing in this country - it is, however, racist if the response to those issues is "drop them out of a plane over bongo-bongo land" or "repatriation of non-indigenes is the answer".

And the jokes about the Irish weren't funny fifty years ago, it's just a different scapegoat now; people who found them funny then/now were/are looking for someone to mock and look down on.

Originally Posted by Hiroki

Can anyone tell me when this question time being aired please?

Tonight at 22:35 (10:35 PM for you civies) on BBC 1 tonight.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

And the jokes about the Irish weren't funny fifty

In that case why do I find "Paddy" jokes funny ?

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

I think Cameron got it right about Twitter...

Got what right?

[Hiroki]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Tonight at 22:35 (10:35 PM for you civies) on BBC 1 tonight.

Thanks

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Gary, you seem to have been attending the Nick Griffin School for dissimulation and diversionary tactics

it isn't, and shouldn't be, regarded as racist to discuss the issues that immigration may be causing in this country

I know, but the problem is the PC brigade.

And the jokes about the Irish weren't funny fifty years ago

They were, and they still are.

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Gary, you seem to have been attending the Nick Griffin School for dissimulation and diversionary tactics - it isn't, and shouldn't be, regarded as racist to discuss the issues that immigration may be causing in this country - it is, however, racist if the response to those issues is "drop them out of a plane over bongo-bongo land" or "repatriation of non-indigenes is the answer".

And the jokes about the Irish weren't funny fifty years ago, it's just a different scapegoat now; people who found them funny then/now were/are looking for someone to mock and look down on.

I think that what gets up peoples butts is the fact that we pay so much in tax and get fudge all back for it.
Immigrants come to this country and get all the benefits that even my daughter cant get, even though she`s worked all of her life and paid her taxes throughout, and they get state handouts and even send the benefits back home to support their children there!
If you want to come to this country, at least work for your money. I get up at 5.45am every morning to go to work, i usually get home about 5.30pm thats a ****ing long day.! I do it because i want to have good things for my family and pay my bills on time.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

What struck me from that video, is how nice the protesters were. They were not violent, they caused some mild disruption, which is the aim of protest. They even helped a police officer to climb up the gate when he couldn't get through the crowds. So, success all round really.

3 police injured ,six arrests,BBC invaded ...nice peacefull protest then

[Russ]

There are idiots on both sides - but the ones spewing hate against other colours and religions are on the side of the BNP.

[Gary L]

What is Labour's big fear over Griffin. And what is Labour’s Master
Plan? They seem to have an agenda of standardisation in every area
they meddle. Our confusion over race, is because we suspect their is
a plan underway which they cannot admit to. The BBC usually just tag
along as their paymaster orders, but not perhaps on this one occasion.

The BBC and the Government are trying to brainwash us into believing,
prejudice is simply treating someone of another race in an unfair way;
the issues are far more complicated than this. Prejudice is also
treating people unfairly because they are ginger, fat, disabled, or in
the case of the BBC, white, or because they are not from a particular
region in Britain; something they actively do to give the false
‘impression’ that they are being fair.

If I treat a black man preferentially because I am aware that 'people
of his race' have historically been treated unfairly - I too am then
guilty of prejudice.

I don't say we should do nothing at all about the unfairness which can
easily develop when nobody cares (for example, that a disabled people
may have trouble getting in buildings), but I think it is somewhat
dangerous to say, we will make it harder for able bodied people to
enter buildings, which is to some extenet what the BBC do when they
'decorate' their TV programmes with the standard token black, Asian,
Scot or whatever - this exercises a prejudice against quality in
preference to a hidden race bias.

The problem of race has come into a sharper focus for all the wrong
reasons. I suspect it has become so important because of
centralisation and nationalisation of media, government and business.
The BBC has to talk to everyone, because it has national and
international interests - so it has great problems relating to people
in 'Ambridge' for example. It cannot allow the village culture rich
in local flavour to continue without adding 'wild cards' of
international irrelevance to contaminate it.

I was in the Halifax Building Society today; the deranged dancing
black Howard seems to have been replaced by a more politically correct
cardboard image of mixed race manager who has Asian skin tone, a black
man's hair, and Chinese eyes. In other words, the Halifax feels
uncomfortable having a white OR black person representing their bank
in the future so they create a new multimix norm. Fine - they are
doing that to maximise their acceptability to the public, so that none
of us get too offended - but if this pressure of multimix continues,
it means that all races are in danger of having their culture eroded
by a standardised human 'product' that is easier for the corporate,
media and governments of the world too relate too. Regional is out!
Individuality is out. The system is pushing towards a one-size-fits-
all world where a company can make an advertisement and then use it
all over the world without regional alteration. It's cheap for a
start but it's also de-humanising.

I HATE racism, but I deeply suspect that out leaders are unfit
psychologically to decide what ‘we’ should or shouldn't be.

In the meantime we have the financial crook and thug Peter Hain and
the crook Jack Straw, both from a government who have 'executed'
hundreds of thousands of innocent people in a bogus war, telling us
that we should hate the BNP without allowing us to hear and consider
farily what issues are raised. I suspect their real fear over
Griffin's soapbox on QT tonight, is that we may agree with aspects of
Griffin's argument.