[Update] BNP on Question Time this week

In fairness Nidge be honest we all know what the bnp is and what it stands for and i am sure they manasge to sound reasonable now and then but they would be anything but if they ever got into power. It isn't all about other non white races either you should go to one of their little pub meetings when they feel safe and secure and hear some of the ideas for the disabled in this country truly sickening and that was before i was disabled the thought of them in power and what would happen to me scares the hell out of me.

That said while they are a legal political party they must be accorded the same standards that the main partys have and if that includes tv exposure then so be it and if it doesn't apply to them then lets cut the rubbish and stop talking about this country as a free democracy because clearly it wouldn't be.

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

*******s. Most surgeries now run that way because of the amount of appointments wasted by people failing to turn up or cancelling at the last minute. You call on the day so it's almost certain you actually attend.
What difference resources wise, does pre-arranged or on-the-spot appointment making cause? If anything, it requires more resources with this system. To link it to immigration is pure logical fallacy.

surgeries run that way because they only have resources to operate a first come first served basis ,try asking why they changed next time you go to the doctors

None of their policies are up in the air. Read their manifesto.

if you think that any political parties financial policies written god nows when actually mean anything when they get to power then you are very naive


We can already afford it, and every country is in debt.
Fortunately, not everybody is as selfish and short-sighted as you clearly are.

how the hell do you work that out ,this country is virtually on it's knees carrying debt and you still think we should be giving millions in aid to countries ,as i have said i've no problem giving aid but only when we can afford it

Then protest to your local GP and try and get them to change their system.

i did and got the above answer

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane

*******s. Most surgeries now run that way because of the amount of appointments wasted by people failing to turn up or cancelling at the last minute. You call on the day so it's almost certain you actually attend.
What difference resources wise, does pre-arranged or on-the-spot appointment making cause? If anything, it requires more resources with this system. To link it to immigration is pure logical fallacy.

None of their policies are up in the air. Read their manifesto.

We can already afford it, and every country is in debt.
Fortunately, not everybody is as selfish and short-sighted as you clearly are.

Then protest to your local GP and try and get them to change their system.

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

You do realise that a lot of surgeries are only working because of the immigrant doctors that are running them don't you.....

if you bothered to read my post correctly i havn't said otherwise .I fully appreciate that immigrant doctors make up a large proportion of the NHS ,which is just one reason the BNP's policy of sending them all back doesn't make any sense

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

It has not stopped. That kind of racism has decreased in this country, but it has not stopped.

Show me a shop where it says "No Blacks or Pakis" on the window.
Name a politician that has since said publically "if you want n****** or pakis living next door to you, vote Labour"

That is what I said had stopped.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

All immigrants, including Aussies/Canadians/Kiwis etc, and those really helpful Poles who do such a good job nearly all of the time?

To be PC then yes. all of them. all them that do a really nice job.
you're on the defensive already. this is what happens. you're jumping on me for being racist before I've even said anything.
that is the problem with this country. and why BNP are getting the votes.

Gary, as usual, you have reduced a very complex subject to a simplistic rant - I suppose it works for you.

LOL was it a rant? or does it have to be a rant because it'll help your argument?

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

To be fair, yes he did.

To solve it once and for all, no he didn't.

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Originally Posted by Chris

That email was probably first written by the sort of person who prefixes their observations on life with "I'm not racist, but ..."

Why? why not just someone who's funny and can make jokes?

That's why the BNP are where they are now.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Apart from the rest of your rather incoherently absurd rant; where do families from Poland, India or Afghanistan get priority in health and housing over you white folk? A recent survey produced evidence that no non British race gets priority over housing, in proportion to their representation. I can understand your misperception, regarding housing, because you presumably have been brainwashed by the British Nazi Party's propaganda, but I can't see how you think that other races are being given priority over health issues. Do doctors come out of their surgeries and say, "next non-British patient, please."

show evidence of this survey,and if some immigrants don't get priority how come they are all housed virtually straight away when other people are living in one bed flats with 2 kids
i have by no means been brainwashed by the BNP or any body else it is evidence as seen with my own eyes.In case you didn't know i work for many local authorities in the NE of england on Decent Homes projects and have seen evidene of this with my own eyes

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Nidge

What gets me is this, they are all going on about the freedom we have in this country, Labour and the Tories have done more to curb freedom than any fascist party can ever do. All your emails are read. All your surfing is monitored. You're on camera virtually everywhere you go. Free country, nonsense. Your personal details are sold to anyone who wants them. If this is a free country, why is it you are unable to join the police if you are/were a BNP member, but it's OK to be a Tory, Labour or even the shadiest sect ever, the Masons?

I get fed up hearing such bias on the news, constantly, calling them the vile BNP yet they got seats in the by-elections and have roughly 1million voters behind them. Are those people vile too, or have they just had enough of the way this country is going, example leisure centre and hospital signs being in Urdu and Arabic? Going to work, getting taxed to death and then seeing hundreds of darthvaders and goat hurders protesting in the streets about how hard done by they are, when they're living off benefits and contributing to nothing but a dangerous cult.

Most of the BNP manifesto is drivel, but if it makes the major parties sit up and take on what the voting public is attracted to then they'll have served their purpose.

The thing is every time the BNP get a platform on TV, (and I agree with some of their policies, but not most) all you get is idiots standing up shouting racists before a word is said....then the idiots stand up clapping the idiot who shouted racists.......On top of that, the BBC will undoubtedly have a load of skinheads in the audience that are probably nothing to do with the BNP......Griffin can't win either way imo...But I'd like to hear his views against the other parties.....

I'm going to vote for the BNP in Europe as I want us out of Europe totally.....<Mod Edit (Matt D): Removed> the EU.

Good post

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Nidge

The thing is every time the BNP get a platform on TV, (and I agree with some of their policies, but not most) all you get is idiots standing up shouting racists before a word is said....then the idiots stand up clapping the idiot who shouted racists.......On top of that, the BBC will undoubtedly have a load of skinheads in the audience that are probably nothing to do with the BNP......Griffin can't win either way imo...But I'd like to hear his views against the other parties.....

Originally Posted by Chris

There's no such thing as "paki bashing". It's called "assault", or "assault occassioning actual bodily harm", or maybe "GBH". Sometimes it's even "murder". I'd appreciate it if you didn't diminish such serious criminal offences with crude racist euphemisms.

And please don't offer up the fact that someone does not go around beating up their fellow man as a positive character trait as if they deserve some sort of medal. Not beating up other people is one of the basic obligations upon anybody who wishes to live in our society.

Chris ,you don't have to be so litteral you know "paki bashing"is a term used by idiots who target any race with a non-white face (proves how stupid they are anyone with a different coulor skin is either a pakistani or chinese),in some areas it is a sport for some,a very sick one

you also must realise that not all supporters/members are of this ilk some are doctors,lawers,policemen and even judges so you cannot identify a BNP member/supporter just by his bleeding knuckles some are retired people who have worked all their lives and are now getting shafted they don't trust the mainstream parties any more hence their support for some of the BNP's policies

[Julian]

Looks like the theme for the evening is set.....

SEE HERE

[Jimmy-J]

Follow some of what's happened on QT via Twitter... #bbcqt

[SMG]

This is a free country. If people want to vote for the BNP, they have a right to do so. Apart from the hype & speculation, plus the news media who always seem to make a mountain out of a mole hill, no one knows what they would do. Their manifesto is as much a pile of crap as every other parties manifesto.

Politicians are liars. Crooks, ripping us off. Cowards, who refuse to speak out publicly against certain subjects. Particularly immigration, for fear someone will brand them "Racist".

This country has slid down the pan so far, I don't think any party could pull it back. But if the BNP say what the people want to hear, they will get votes. Its up to the idiots in power to recognise the problems & sort them out, instead of lying through their back teeth, & doing nothing.

Let them speak. They have the right. I want to hear them & so do others. If you don't want to listen, grab the remote & switch off.

Originally Posted by SMG

This is a free country. If people want to vote for the BNP, they have a right to do so. Apart from the hype & speculation, plus the news media who always seem to make a mountain out of a mole hill, no one knows what they would do. Their manifesto is as much a pile of crap as every other parties manifesto.

Politicians are liars. Crooks, ripping us off. Cowards, who refuse to speak out publicly against certain subjects. Particularly immigration, for fear someone will brand them "Racist".

This country has slid down the pan so far, I don't think any party could pull it back. But if the BNP say what the people want to hear, they will get votes. Its up to the idiots in power to recognise the problems & sort them out, instead of lying through their back teeth, & doing nothing.

Let them speak. They have the right. I want to hear them & so do others. If you don't want to listen, grab the remote & switch off.

well said

Originally Posted by Gary L

To be PC then yes. all of them. all them that do a really nice job.
you're on the defensive already. this is what happens. you're jumping on me for being racist before I've even said anything.
that is the problem with this country. and why BNP are getting the votes.

I never said you were racist, Gary - methinks you protesteth too much.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Why? why not just someone who's funny and can make jokes?

That's why the BNP are where they are now

Because it's not funny, and the same sort of "joke"/comments were made about the Irish 40/50 years ago (that and "coming over here taking our jobs/houses/doctors' appointment") - just a different scapegoat nowadays for people to blame something on.

Originally Posted by Product 13

Follow some of what's happened on QT via Twitter... #bbcqt

Has that been cleared as OK with Stephen Fry?



I think Cameron got it right about Twitter...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I never said you were racist, Gary - methinks you protesteth too much.

We're keeping with the 'someone will say is it ok for me to say how unhappy I am about something to do with immigrants?'
and getting the typical PC reaction of "All immigrants, including Aussies/Canadians/Kiwis etc, and those really helpful Poles who do such a good job nearly all of the time?"

Because it's not funny

Because it's not funny to you, and the other he must be "I'm not a racist, but.." to someone else maybe, but let people be their own judge.

[Horace]

Starting soon..

Originally Posted by nicked from elsewhere

A Zebra dies and arrives at the Pearly Gates. As he enters, he asks St. Peter, 'I have a question that's haunted me all of my days on earth. Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'


St.. Peter said, 'That's a question only God can answer.'


So the zebra went off in search of God.
When he found Him, the zebra asked, 'God, please - I must know. Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'

God simply replied 'You are what you are.'



The zebra returned to see St. Peter once more, who asked him, 'Well, did God straighten out your query for you?'

The zebra looked puzzled. 'No sir, God simply said 'You are what you are.''


St. Peter smiled and said to the zebra, 'Well then, there you are. You are white with black stripes.'


The zebra asked St. Peter, 'How do you know that for certain?'



Because,' said St Peter, 'If you were black with white stripes, God would have said, 'You is what you is.'