Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by Hank

Alexander - on this page: https://nodpi.org/2008/06/18/material-change/

I'm not seeing any content after the banner at the top (I have tried reloading/refreshing - no joy)

Hank

It is working fine here, anyone else having the same problem?

Alexander Hanff

[Wildie]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

It is working fine here, anyone else having the same problem?

Alexander Hanff

works here

Bluecar your best friend over at III has something to say and err it must hurt them to say it.

[dav]

Originally Posted by serial

With the new law just passed in Sweden, the Swedish authorities have said that anything encrypted will be treated as suspicious. They have one of the top 500 super computers in the world ready for key breaking. Computer power and storage is so immense now that current encryption is nothing for those governments with the money and interest to break it.

And if you send something today they can't decrypt, then most likely they will store it until they can.

If that's the case then I'm just the sort of person who would then encrypt everything...even if it's just a shopping list. I'd encourage everyone else to do likewise. I'm a little bloody-minded and can be an awkward so-and-so if irked. Filling the net with encrypted fud would, if nothing else, make me smile when they finally decrypt the email to my mrs asking her to get some milk from the shops on her way home from work

[BadPhormula]

Originally Posted by serial

With the new law just passed in Sweden, the Swedish authorities have said that anything encrypted will be treated as suspicious. They have one of the top 500 super computers in the world ready for key breaking. Computer power and storage is so immense now that current encryption is nothing for those governments with the money and interest to break it.

And if you send something today they can't decrypt, then most likely they will store it until they can.

I don't think anyone should worry too much about super computers trying to break crypto systems. It is far easier for the police to kick a door down and apply the thumb screw technique rather than waste time trying to break an impossible to break cipher. Btw the simplest method to break the private key problem is to break into a vulnerable operating system and plant a trojan, that is far more likely to happen.

BUT and it's a big but... Anyone with nothing to hide should not worry about what super spook agencies like NSA may or may not do. Simple encryption will stop Phorm or casual and organised profilers dead in their tracks. Phorm are looking to parasite an easy problem to crack (plain text with layer 7 DPI)

It would be interesting to hear what thoughts 'Relakks' managing director has to say about these developments.

[Florence]

Originally Posted by Hank

Alexander - on this page: https://nodpi.org/2008/06/18/material-change/

I'm not seeing any content after the banner at the top (I have tried reloading/refreshing - no joy)

Hank

Working perfect on my Aquiss connection.

Originally Posted by Wildie

Not sure if this been posted as the thread moving quickly again and i cannot keep up.
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=7996&Itemid=1

A good find looks like the advertising seat is heating up for those who sit inside the ISP network leeching off others.

[BadPhormula]

Originally Posted by dav

If that's the case then I'm just the sort of person who would then encrypt everything...even if it's just a shopping list. I'd encourage everyone else to do likewise. I'm a little bloody-minded and can be an awkward so-and-so if irked. Filling the net with encrypted fud would, if nothing else, make me smile when they finally decrypt the email to my mrs asking her to get some milk from the shops on her way home from work

Oh and just to make things a little bit harder for them i.e. impossible, change your keys regularly, and that way they can spend years of time enjoying themselves trying to break each differently encrypted shopping list and odd postit note

Face it, the money they will save in electricy costs alone from the futile decrypto efforts will mean they can station a permament van-Eck monitoring system outside your home. Lookup our old Cambridge Uni friend Ross Anderson for more details.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ih98-tempest.pdf [ LINK to nice Ross Anderson research paper on van-Eck and Tempest ]

http://jya.com/emr.pdf [ LINK Wim van Eck's research paper ]

[Ravenheart]

Not sure if I mentioned it before but there was a nice article on lifehacker about encrypting your emails using Thunderbird and PGP

Might come in handy if you'd like to try it out

http://lifehacker.com/software/top/h...ail-180878.php

[BetBlowWhistler]

I can see a new business opportunity..(feel free to steal it )

Get BT to host a nice big computer for you which you can offer as a VPN endpoint practically within BT's network, make sure it has a lot of CPU, RAM and bandwidth.

Sell the service to BT customers who want to ensure their privacy as your machine is the other side of the profilers

[popper]

Originally Posted by serial

With the new law just passed in Sweden, the Swedish authorities have said that anything encrypted will be treated as suspicious. They have one of the top 500 super computers in the world ready for key breaking. Computer power and storage is so immense now that current encryption is nothing for those governments with the money and interest to break it.

And if you send something today they can't decrypt, then most likely they will store it until they can.

you mean this one ?
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ance-bill.html
"Swedish Parliament passes "Big Brother" surveillance bill (Updated x2)"


it didnt pass, its been sent back apparently.

[dav]

Originally Posted by BetBlowWhistler

I can see a new business opportunity..(feel free to steal it )

Get BT to host a nice big computer for you which you can offer as a VPN endpoint practically within BT's network, make sure it has a lot of CPU, RAM and bandwidth.

Sell the service to BT customers who want to ensure their privacy as your machine is the other side of the profilers

Now you've done it!

Hear that scratching sound? It's the BT forum watchers taking notes.
That idea will be in a BT powerpoint by monday morning and approved by management that afternoon as a means of screwing the customers both ways.

"BT Broadband. Now with free barrel to bend over!"

[Dephormation]

Excuse posting again; minor tweak...

[serial]

Originally Posted by popper

you mean this one ?
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ance-bill.html
"Swedish Parliament passes "Big Brother" surveillance bill (Updated x2)"


it didnt pass, its been sent back apparently.

They made some last minute changes and it was passed:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06...den_now_legal/

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by BeeVee

From one of the silent majority..to all of the vocal minority.

We've written to our ISP informing them of our disgust of Phorm.

We've informed them we will cancel ALL of our services if Phorm is employed.

To Alexander and all of the vocal minority... we are listening, we hear you... and Thank You.

Great post thank you BeeVee. Time for all to come from the shadows if only to say you are here. Please.

[mant1s]

I have been one of the lurkers here for several months now. This campaign has got me spitting nails. Have been telling everyone i know about it and even got a reply from David Cameron after asking what he could/would do about it. Finally snapped this morning and cancelled my BB from virgin and going with adsl24 as of next week.
Thanks to everyone who has kept this alive and maybe see a few of you as the BT agm

mantis

[Wildie]

so if and when the thing goes live and opted in, and i get phished and my bank a/c and id stolen whos fault would it be seeing they claim it`s a anti phishing feature this dpi.