Identity

[AntiSilence]

Originally Posted by popper

no,No.NO, thats when the madness really begins, the Govt and ID cards are BAD, check out all the reasons for yourself BEFORE you get behind them, seriously, google.

they keep trying to get them through any way they can, masses of law abiding people keep trying to stop them , ask yourself why that is!

Don't worry Popper, I am definitely not behind ID cards, I was being sarcastic (but not very well! lol). But, eventually, it might happen. You know, right before they RFID tag everyone, which wouldn't surprise me either.

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by Shaun

You're lucky you've not been slapped with a £1000 fine for not updating your driving licence!!!

True

Originally Posted by Shaun

Can someone at work not sign your passport photos (when you get one) or a family friend, there's a long list of occupations, any professional should do - even the dodgy trade unionists!!!!

Nope. The only person is the optician, and that's it. I could sign them myself - I'm on the list of approved persons. I certify I am me

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by popper

they keep trying to get them through any way they can, masses of law abiding people keep trying to stop them , ask yourself why that is!

Paranoia?
Tin hats to the max chaps!

Other than that, there's the more sensible reason that this government couldn't do it effectively or at a reasonable cost. So why should we have to fork out for a system which isn't as good as it could be and costs a heck of a lot more than it should do?

[superbiatch]

Originally Posted by Paul M

All I needed to open an account [with Halifax] was a couple of bills to prove my address and something to prove who I was (I think I used a letter from the tax office, and my works id card).

I had nothing on me except my previous loan agreement and they gave me a new loan, opened me a new bank account there and then, AND gave me an overdraft

[Salu]

Originally Posted by greencreeper

Having trouble accepting a loan agreement. I need one form of ID from the provided list. I sent back a copy of my latest P60, feeling certain that I'd used a P60 before. But it was sent back. I do have a provisional photocard driving license, which I had to plead with my optician to sign. My optician, who I had known for years, died in a car crash, and the new optician didn't know me - though the receptionist did. It was her leaning on him and me looking desperate that convinced him to sign. However, the license has my old address - but address (location) is not part of my identity, surely? But the bank said that the license would not be acceptable. I sent a copy anyway, for want of something better. It was sent back this morning. So that leaves my Coding Notice from the nasty tax people. Turns out they had my address from years ago - I'm supposed to keep them informed, but no one told me. So I'm waiting for my Coding Notice to arrive, and have sent back the driving license to have the address updated. I took a look at the passport application. The fee - a whole £66 - is incredible, but what is more incredible is that I may have to provide details of my parents' nationalities, may have to attend an interview, and will have to have someone sign my photographs and provide their passport number Who's going to do that?? Incredibly, the advice is to give your form, complete with payment, to that person, so they can complete the form and post it. So that's a form complete with all your personal details that could be used to steal your identity. Hmmm. Incredible. It's almost as if there's a conspiracy to force people to use Identity Cards.

I'm not convinced this is the real Greencreeper? Can anyone vouch for him?

[popper]

Quote:
Originally Posted by popper
they keep trying to get them through any way they can, masses of law abiding people keep trying to stop them , ask yourself why that is!

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Paranoia?
Tin hats to the max chaps!

Other than that, there's the more sensible reason that this government couldn't do it effectively or at a reasonable cost. So why should we have to fork out for a system which isn't as good as it could be and costs a heck of a lot more than it should do?

its interesting that people put money before the erosion of civil liberties http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...rties-out.html

perhaps we should also forget about all the good people that died in all the lawful wars to give the UK and its people this liberty or at least place it below the all important £ in your pocket today,hmmm.

the old saying, 'you dont miss something until its gone' ring true even today.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by popper

its interesting that people put money before the erosion of civil liberties http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...rties-out.html

perhaps we should also forget about all the good people that died in all the lawful wars to give the UK and its people this liberty or at least place it below the all important £ in your pocket today,hmmm.

the old saying, 'you dont miss something until its gone' ring true even today.

Of course people put money first!
Without money people can't pay the bills, buy food, put a roof over their heads.
Now, a sensibly and efficiantly thought out ID card system (something which this government is blatantly unable to do) wouldn't affect civil liberties, wouldn't have the security risks that the government's proposal will have, and would be more useful in day to day life.

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by Salu

I'm not convinced this is the real Greencreeper? Can anyone vouch for him?

Don't go there

The Coding Notice was sent yesterday - had to ask repeatedly to be told if it had been sent. The chap kept saying that it takes 7-10 days. I kept saying that I knew this but didn't want to wait 10 days, phone, and find it had never been sent - and have to wait another 10 days. Twit.

I received a bank card for the previous tenant - she of several names and naughty night time activities for cash, possibly involving a parrot. It was an Abbey card, so I was concerned that she might be associated with me. I phoned my bank - refused to do anything at all without the card. It's not my account, apparently. Well yes, this I know - but you need to update your records, or at least flag that the wrong address is listed. Oh no. So I went into a branch. Same story. They took the card to destroy it but couldn't do anything. It beggars belief. An opportunity to prevent possible fraud and they're not interested World's gone mad.

Originally Posted by greencreeper

I received a bank card for the previous tenant - she of several names and naughty night time activities for cash, possibly involving a parrot. It was an Abbey card, so I was concerned that she might be associated with me. I phoned my bank - refused to do anything at all without the card. It's not my account, apparently. Well yes, this I know - but you need to update your records, or at least flag that the wrong address is listed. Oh no. So I went into a branch. Same story. They took the card to destroy it but couldn't do anything. It beggars belief. An opportunity to prevent possible fraud and they're not interested World's gone mad.

The first thing the bank will do if this persons info is used is to penalise her and say she should have more care when in fact the whole issue has been pointed out to them but I bet they don't admit it to the person concerned .