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Old 04-06-2025, 11:06   #31
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

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It might be that the follow up drug tests were below the legal limits to make the drug driving charge stick. There are two parts to drug driving- driving with drugs in your system and driving while impaired.
there's a legal amount of drugs you can have in your system whilst driving? When did this happen


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Old 04-06-2025, 18:18   #32
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there's a legal amount of drugs you can have in your system whilst driving? When did this happen
It’s the same as for alcohol, the idea being how much needs to be present to impair driving. Here is a list of the limits - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi...2/regulation/2 Note that the drug driving list covers both prescription and illegal drugs. Diazepam or methadone will not help your driving skills even though being perfectly legal
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

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A man accused of driving into crowds at Liverpool's Premier League victory parade has pleaded not guilty.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ads-not-guilty
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

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Who was it then
The accusation is that he did it deliberately. Pleading ‘not guilty’ doesn’t mean he’s going to say he wasn’t driving the car.
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The accusation is that he did it deliberately. Pleading ‘not guilty’ doesn’t mean he’s going to say he wasn’t driving the car.
He put pedal to metal.
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

He seemingly spotted a way to get onto the (blocked) road he wanted, then found himself surrounded by football supporters that weren't too happy about it.

Personally I'd say his trousers were about to fill with brown stuff and he wanted away as quick as.
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Paul Doyle, 54, is jailed for 21 and a half years for driving into crowds at the Liverpool Premier League victory parade last May.

https://news.sky.com/story/liverpool...#liveblog-body
SkySportsNews Geraint Hughes, He'll serve 2/3 before being considered for release

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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

I think 21 years is a little excessive.

A life sentence for murder is 25-30 years.

Manslaughter is usually around 10 years.

No one was killed…..
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

It's the sheer amount of people he ran over and injured. It's very lucky people weren't killed.
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It's the sheer amount of people he ran over and injured. It's very lucky people weren't killed.
“Weren’t killed” being the operative.

I am in no way defending his actions.

But there have been much lesser sentences for people that have actually killed people, especially in car related incidents.
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

As always sentencing is never really consistant.

And why 21 years and 6 months ? Is 6 months really going to make a difference.

He would be 75 by then, if he's still even alive.
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

I thought it was a tad severe until I saw the videos of his driving. Stuff him.
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

is the full video available to the public now that the trial is over
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is the full video available to the public now that the trial is over
Caught some of it on BBC news. It was enough. I imagine the stuff in court showed even more.
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Caught some of it on BBC news. It was enough. I imagine the stuff in court showed even more.
i saw a little bit of what the court wanted us to see but i would prefer to see all of it and hear the sound from the dashcam
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