British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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Which is why I asked Ignitionnet why he thinks Detica rocks.  |
Might it be he works for them i dont know 
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07-07-2010, 13:04
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
Just to note:
TalkTalk and Opal Telecom have now officially demerged away from the Carphone Warehouse Group, that also includes AOL,One Tel,British Gas and Tiscali branded services in the UK
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08-07-2010, 12:26
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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Might it be he works for them i dont know |
*Starts checking out Sirius' P2P history*
Blimey, didn't know a midget and a giraffe could do that 
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08-07-2010, 12:43
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
That's what the step-ladder's for......
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10-11-2010, 13:38
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
And it looks like the Government is tightening up RIPA, with RIPA soon to require that interception can only occur with customer consent that is "freely given, specific and informed".
Admittedly, the actual phrasing may change as they are just consulting at the moment, but the end of consultation is on 7th December.
Not unexpected, seeing as that is basically what the directive the act is based on says, but good anyway..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11..._consultation/
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10-11-2010, 14:23
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
Hmmm..they are certainly talking the talk but will they walk the walk?
I somehow can't see Stratis and Ian sharing a cell for two years 
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10-11-2010, 16:18
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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And it looks like the Government is tightening up RIPA, with RIPA soon to require that interception can only occur with customer consent that is "freely given, specific and informed".
Admittedly, the actual phrasing may change as they are just consulting at the moment, but the end of consultation is on 7th December.
Not unexpected, seeing as that is basically what the directive the act is based on says, but good anyway..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11..._consultation/ |
So does this mean than ANY use of DPI will be looked at ???
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10-11-2010, 16:22
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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So does this mean than ANY use of DPI will be looked at ???
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To give the consultant's answer - it depends....
If they use it for traffic analysis for shaping/management, probably not. If it is used to provide info for targeted marketing, probably yes.
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10-11-2010, 16:25
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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To give the consultant's answer - it depends....
If they use it for traffic analysis for shaping/managment, probably not. If it is used to provide info for targeted marketing, probably yes. |
Well if its for all DPI there are going to be a lot of red faces at all isp's
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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So does this mean than ANY use of DPI will be looked at ???
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Nope. Network management will remain legitimate use of DPI and remain exempted from RIPA's interception provisions.
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Well if its for all DPI there are going to be a lot of red faces at all isp's |
Nearly as many as there would be on users' faces when the networks either became hopelessly oversubscribed or hard monthly bit caps and pay per GB services were introduced. 
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The comments are fantastic on that Register story by the way, there's a couple of absolute gems.
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10-11-2010, 17:56
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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The comments are fantastic on that Register story by the way, there's a couple of absolute gems.
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These are my favourite comments
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How about £10,000 for every *individual* interception (even if it's two 10 min apart against the same account)
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I wonder if that's from the same person who is trying to invoice a major Telecomms company £10 for every time they accessed his publicly available website?
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who colluded with BT/Phorm (and TalkTalk/Huawei) are kicked out of the civil service... I can't see much to gain by contributing a response to a Home Office consultation now.
Because he problem is not, and never has been, the legislation.
The basic fault is the collusion of the Home Office RIPA Unit with BT/Phorm. And shady politicians. Not forgetting the Police, ICO, Ofcom, GCHQ, and the Security Services.
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mmmm, those comments sound a little familiar....
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10-11-2010, 18:01
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
I think I've read something similar on What Do They Know?
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09-05-2011, 08:33
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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These are my favourite comments
I wonder if that's from the same person who is trying to invoice a major Telecomms company £10 for every time they accessed his publicly available website?
mmmm, those comments sound a little familiar....
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No it isn't. You don't like to give up do you?
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09-05-2011, 10:13
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
Considering my post was 6 months ago, it would seem I'm not the only one....
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09-05-2011, 11:41
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Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
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Considering my post was 6 months ago, it would seem I'm not the only one.... |
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