Is Cardiff really so dangerous at night?

Theodoric · 05-02-2004, 13:34

I was watching the BBC1 programme on drunken behaviour last night and Cardiff city centre was picked as the drunken hooligan capital of Britain. Let's just say it wasn't the best advert for a suitable place for families to holiday in.

If ever there was a case for something being reversed, it's the current policy of relaxing controls on public drinking. Why we haven't followed the example of Ireland and banned Happy Hours etc, I don't know. As far as I can see, the only concern of the present government is to relax controls as far as possible.

It was interesting how controlled the police were over taking insults from drunks (OK, a camera looking over your shoulder probably makes you a bit more restrained, but they did seem to take it in their stride).

paulyoung666 · 05-02-2004, 13:37

i must admit it made scary watching , but then again is any big city really much different , there have been programs about my area recently and some of them made for really scary watching ,mind you it might have seemed worse because i knew the places whereas i dont know cardiff

Richard M · 05-02-2004, 13:38

Sometimes it is, I was in Central last Saturday and saw at least two fights involving more than two people.
People get aggressive when they drink around here, I prefer to go around the student pubs when I go out - more relaxed.

Russ · 05-02-2004, 13:44

Cardiff can be a nasty place - and unfortunately it can be worse if City have been playing at home that day.

paulyoung666 · 05-02-2004, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Cardiff can be a nasty place - and unfortunately it can be worse if City have been playing at home that day.

yeah but is it really that much different to most city centres ????????? , from what i have seen i wouldnt take my life in my hands in any city centre on a saturday night

Wolf · 05-02-2004, 14:04

I live in Cardiff and I hate going out because of all these useless idiots. I took up martial arts just incase i need to defend myself. I was raised in South Africa. All you need there is a gun. I have had a gun pointed at me here on a bus but it didn't bother me but if i was going to be beat up that does bother me. Good thing I hate football too. coming to Cardiff had a negative against me and i will always hold a grudge against it. Good thing is i'm getting married in 5 months but how do I leave this place behind. I work for an electronics shop and enjoy helping people but it also means i get to see a lot of what cardiff has to offer.

Richard M · 05-02-2004, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Wolf

I work for an electronics shop and enjoy helping people but it also means i get to see a lot of what cardiff has to offer.

Like guns...drug problems...gangs of annoying kids who go around mugging people (lend me 50p bra?

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London is far worse though.

Russ · 05-02-2004, 14:15

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

yeah but is it really that much different to most city centres ????????? , from what i have seen i wouldnt take my life in my hands in any city centre on a saturday night

The Cardiff City Firm and Soul Crews are considered to be the most violent hooligans in Britain. Even Millwall's supporters get in 2 minds about travelling down there.

paulyoung666 · 05-02-2004, 14:28

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Originally Posted by Russ D

The Cardiff City Firm and Soul Crews are considered to be the most violent hooligans in Britain. Even Millwall's supporters get in 2 minds about travelling down there.

well i think i will give cardiff a permanent miss then , btw , how do cardiff fans get on with bolton and boro ones

Julian · 05-02-2004, 14:49

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

yeah but is it really that much different to most city centres ????????? , from what i have seen i wouldnt take my life in my hands in any city centre on a saturday night

I feel the same way Paul, it shouldn't be like that. We shouldn't feel intimidated when trying to enjoy a night out.

One city I have visited recently I can thoroughily recommend is Edinburgh.

I felt no intimidation there when going into local bars etc.

Russ · 05-02-2004, 17:01

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

well i think i will give cardiff a permanent miss then , btw , how do cardiff fans get on with bolton and boro ones

They hate everyone.

There will be trouble that day, trust me. The Firm love FA Cup Final day.

paulyoung666 · 05-02-2004, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Russ D

They hate everyone.

There will be trouble that day, trust me. The Firm love FA Cup Final day.

good job i'm not going then

Escapee · 06-02-2004, 08:02

I have rarely seen any trouble in Cardiff, and I have always felt safe there at night. I can only recall two incidents in a club/bar that involved a scuffle that I have mentioned in another thread.
I guess I miss the trouble because I tend to visit the bars without the drunken teenagers.

On the other hand Newport is a place that I do not visit because there is always plenty of trouble from past experience!

07-02-2004, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Russ D

They hate everyone.

There will be trouble that day, trust me. The Firm love FA Cup Final day.

Aye I dont doubt there will be trouble. I'm sure Paulyoung will back me up on this. The boro hooligan element is starting to make its presence felt again, they even had several books released about them last year. Front line and Teesside aggro I think they were/are known as, defo for Teesside aggro.

I just hope it doesnt get as bad is the 70s and 80s was, with huge organised fights before the matches.

Notibly, several known Boro Hooligans were arrested at the Semi Final against Arsenal the other night.