Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Cannot access web or pop servers.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Computers & IT > Networking
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Cannot access web or pop servers.
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 16-05-2006, 19:47   #1
iadom
Oh Lanky Lanky.
 
iadom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 8,038
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
Cannot access web or pop servers.

I have had this WiFi laptop for a few months now. Works perfectly at home. I also take it on the road with me. If I can find a wireless connection it is a great help to be able to access certain spares and tech info sites that I use in the course of my business. Often the networks are in the customers house and if they are unprotected I do advise them to take steps to rectify this. With their permission I have always been able to connect to their router and access web etc.
Today I was in a house and my PC could 'see' five networks, two of which where open. I identified the one belonging to this customer and connected. Windows reports 'connected' with very good signal strength but for some reason I could not access Internet or Pop 3 servers. Wireless Connection Status appears to have no problems.

Is there something simple that I am missing or that I need to alter for certain networks.?
iadom is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 16-05-2006, 20:02   #2
Druchii
cf.mega poster
 
Druchii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway.
Age: 36
Services: Canal Digital: 50/10
Posts: 7,577
Druchii has a nice shiny star
Druchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom
I have had this WiFi laptop for a few months now. Works perfectly at home. I also take it on the road with me. If I can find a wireless connection it is a great help to be able to access certain spares and tech info sites that I use in the course of my business. Often the networks are in the customers house and if they are unprotected I do advise them to take steps to rectify this. With their permission I have always been able to connect to their router and access web etc. Today I was in a house and my PC could 'see' five networks, two of which where open. I identified the one belonging to this customer and connected. Windows reports 'connected' with very good signal strength but for some reason I could not access Internet or Pop 3 servers. Wireless Connection Status appears to have no problems. Is there something simple that I am missing or that I need to alter for certain networks.?
Mac Address filtering?
Druchii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2006, 21:03   #3
iadom
Oh Lanky Lanky.
 
iadom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 8,038
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Druchii
Mac Address filtering?
Well go on then, explain in laymans terms,
iadom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2006, 21:34   #4
Druchii
cf.mega poster
 
Druchii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway.
Age: 36
Services: Canal Digital: 50/10
Posts: 7,577
Druchii has a nice shiny star
Druchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Each Network card connected to a pc, whether it be wirelessly, GPRS, wired (ethernet) or anything else has a MAC address, its an address that identifies that particular card. Whether it has a valid IP address or not.


Most routers/hubs and even in some cases switches can tell which MAC address is which and block them from accessing parts of the network, only allowing certain known Network cards in, this does create some good security... In theory. Of course MAC addresses can be cloned, and therefore that is all security gone, unless it's encrypted

Well, i hope you understand what i mean, it will simply reject you any access other than connecting, somtimes it will not even let you connect.
Druchii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2006, 22:30   #5
iadom
Oh Lanky Lanky.
 
iadom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 8,038
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Thanks for that, much clearer now. So basically there is nothing I can do on my laptop to gain access even if the network registers as unsecured.
iadom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2006, 22:32   #6
Druchii
cf.mega poster
 
Druchii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway.
Age: 36
Services: Canal Digital: 50/10
Posts: 7,577
Druchii has a nice shiny star
Druchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Of course, it could be something totally different

Thats what sprung to my mind, i'm by no means an expert though... Some other people should be here to tell you some other variables etc...

I don't mind helping
Druchii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2006, 22:57   #7
iadom
Oh Lanky Lanky.
 
iadom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 8,038
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Any help is most gratefully received, today is the first time this has happened, I have been able to connect to several unprotected networks without any problems up to now, will just have to see how the next one goes.
iadom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2006, 23:20   #8
Druchii
cf.mega poster
 
Druchii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway.
Age: 36
Services: Canal Digital: 50/10
Posts: 7,577
Druchii has a nice shiny star
Druchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny starDruchii has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom
Thanks for that, much clearer now. So basically there is nothing I can do on my laptop to gain access even if the network registers as unsecured.
Nothing legal...
Druchii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2006, 08:30   #9
Stuartbe
cf.mega poster
 
Stuartbe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 4,984
Stuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this point
Stuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this pointStuartbe is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Section 3 of this http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...69&postcount=1 may help.

---------- Post added at 08:29 ---------- Previous post was at 08:29 ----------

pssst. Linux auditor boot rom
Stuartbe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2006, 08:59   #10
iadom
Oh Lanky Lanky.
 
iadom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 8,038
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
iadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny stariadom has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Thanks Stu, did have a very quick scan through that article when I first set up and secured my home wifi network. Need to find a few spare hours in the day to really get into it.

What a really need to get is 'a round tuit'
iadom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2006, 09:38   #11
Aragorn
Inactive
 
Aragorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Minas Tirith, Gondor
Age: 60
Posts: 3,458
Aragorn has a nice shiny star
Aragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny starAragorn has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

If MAC filtering had been in place, I don't think you would have 'connected'. (also if they have a wireless network with no encryption, I would be surprised if they had MAC filtering.

I would have looked at the 'Support' tab on the wireless connection status screen. This shows whether a valid DHCP address has been assigned. You could then try pinging the default gateway (wireless router) and possibly tracert to a well known address (www.bbc.co.uk).
Aragorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2006, 11:09   #12
altis
cf.mega poster
 
altis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warrington ntl:81304 Altitude: 12m (and falling)
Posts: 4,499
altis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny star
altis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny staraltis has a nice shiny star
Re: Cannot access web or pop servers.

Another option that I've set up on a Netgear router is to disable HTTP access from a certain MAC address. It could be that, by default, all web access is disabled and only specific MACs are allowed out onto the web.

To tell for certain you'd need to log into the router and have a look at it's configuration.

I'm not sure if this is possible but it could be that they have a WAP instead of a router. Then, only the MAC registered with the modem will be allowed out.
altis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 21:32.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum