01-11-2003, 14:12
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Hunting
All this talk about government banning hunting is just a talking shop sop and smokescreen
If they wanted to do something proper about stopping cruely to animals they would address the grim medieval practice of kosher and halal killings
but they won't because they are a silly and rudderless government blown wherever the latest piece of press headlines and spin doctoring happens to blow them
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01-11-2003, 15:31
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Re: Hunting
Kosher & Halal "Killings" are done for religous reasons AFAIK. Where as hunting is usually done for pleasure, sport or for the hell of it.
Hunting will never become "Banned" or if it is it will just be driven underground with "secret" hunts becoming the norm. It's part of peoples life and they ain't gonna give it up overnight.
PS. I don't agree/disagree with hunting - but if someone wants to get the fox that keeps knocking my wheelie bin over then please feel free!
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01-11-2003, 15:46
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by Tricky
Kosher & Halal "Killings" are done for religous reasons AFAIK. Where as hunting is usually done for pleasure, sport or for the hell of it.
Hunting will never become "Banned" or if it is it will just be driven underground with "secret" hunts becoming the norm. It's part of peoples life and they ain't gonna give it up overnight.
PS. I don't agree/disagree with hunting - but if someone wants to get the fox that keeps knocking my wheelie bin over then please feel free!
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we get lots of foxes round here and they are always ripping black bags to shreds - they are a pain - I saw three one night - or the same one in three different places
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01-11-2003, 15:52
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by peachey
but they won't because they are a silly and rudderless government blown wherever the latest piece of press headlines and spin doctoring happens to blow them
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Strange, I didn't see them get blown along by the press in the Hutton enquiry.
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01-11-2003, 16:01
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Re: Hunting
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Strange, I didn't see them get blown along by the press in the Hutton enquiry.
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thanks to labour 'not raising taxes' i am now paying £150/month in council tax so they can all retire early at the council 'on the sick'
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01-11-2003, 16:13
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Re: Hunting
Helped one of our neighbours dispose of a dead (eviscerated) fox this AM
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01-11-2003, 16:17
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Helped one of our neighbours dispose of a dead (eviscerated) fox this AM
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we had one that decided to die under my sons car in our driveway - the council actually came & removed it.
- how on earth had 'your' one become eviscerated?
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01-11-2003, 16:21
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by homealone
we had one that decided to die under my sons car in our driveway - the council actually came & removed it.
- how on earth had 'your' one become eviscerated?
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my uncle used to be into taxidermy in Canada
he sent us a stuffed fox and a stuffed flying squirell
they hung about for years till one day my brother decided to shoot them to pieces with an air rifle
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01-11-2003, 16:26
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by peachey
my uncle used to be into taxidermy in Canada
he sent us a stuffed fox and a stuffed flying squirell
they hung about for years till one day my brother decided to shoot them to pieces with an air rifle
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lol - just got an image of gangs of repressed taxidermists roaming the streets looking for foxes to stuff
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01-11-2003, 19:10
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by peachey
[Snippity snip].....
If they wanted to do something proper about stopping cruely to animals they would address the grim medieval practice of kosher and halal killings
.......[Snippity snipped]
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This is obviously your opinion.... but i would like to know what it is exactly that you think is grim and medieval about it. Also.... why you chose this cultural practice to compare fox hunting to rather than any other more comparable practice.
Just wondering.......
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01-11-2003, 19:13
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by peachey
thanks to labour 'not raising taxes' i am now paying £150/month in council tax so they can all retire early at the council 'on the sick'
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So KA...erm, I mean Peachy, what's that got to do with the point I made?
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01-11-2003, 19:14
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by kink
This is obviously your opinion.... but i would like to know what it is exactly that you think is grim and medieval about it. Also.... why you chose this cultural practice to compare fox hunting to rather than any other more comparable practice.
Just wondering.......
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Kink, you took the words right out of my mouth.
There is evidence to suggest that the kosher/halal method of killing an animal is actrually less painful for the creature than the modern metal-bolt-thru-the-brain method, which, contrary to popular belief, is not 'instantaneous'.
There are plenty of cruel practices you could have proposed as comparable with fox hunting - I'm curious why you chose kosher/halal in particular?
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01-11-2003, 19:17
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Re: Hunting
And Halal isn't just the killing, it's to do with treating the animal with care while it is alive too, more than can be said for normally slaughtered animals
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01-11-2003, 19:18
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Re: Hunting
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Originally Posted by Russ D
So KA...erm, I mean Peachy, what's that got to do with the point I made?
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Originally Posted by towny
Kink, you took the words right out of my mouth.
There is evidence to suggest that the kosher/halal method of killing an animal is actrually less painful for the creature than the modern metal-bolt-thru-the-brain method, which, contrary to popular belief, is not 'instantaneous'.
There are plenty of cruel practices you could have proposed as comparable with fox hunting - I'm curious why you chose kosher/halal in particular?
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My point exactly towny
Just seemed like an inflammatory and may i say ignorant post... with no thought behind it at all
Would still like a reply.... regardless of who it's from
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01-11-2003, 21:51
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Re: Hunting
What is wrong with halaal and kosher killing?
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