Plausibility of a villain's scheme
21-10-2024, 09:16
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Plausibility of a villain's scheme
I was watching through the Bond films on Prime and was set to wondering how plausible were the schemes of the villains. Note I am not thinking about technological plausibility, that clearly isn't here (yet) but, if the technology were available, would their plan actually work how they intended?
For example, GoldFinger. Would irradiating all the gold in Fort Worth really help him destabilise the gold market and create a huge profit for him.Would flooding Silicon Valley corner the chip market?
I guess there are different ways of looking at the plan. Would they work then, would they work now? Silicon Valley maybe less "important" now when chips are built in Korea and other sites around the world. Is the gold reserve at Forth Worth worth so much now if other reserves hold more gold?
This doesn't have to be limited to Bond.
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21-10-2024, 11:57
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
I know what you mean.
I think it's more cyber now, I mean I could ask any of you in the street for your banks PIN and I'd be told to go away (well something stronger).
Yet if I sent it from an email looking like your bank, a small percentage would probably be forth coming.
Plus there are people out there with the technology and no how to build and do such nefarious stuff.
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21-10-2024, 16:06
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
On Her Majesty's Secret Service would work a treat, destroy the crops, sit back, watch the world implode. You think the oil wars were bad, just wait for the water and resources one to start.
Casino Royale kind of happened too, after 9 11 suspicious activity was noted with large numbers of shares in airlines and insurance companies sold off just before the attack, although to be fair that plot probably came about based on those conspiracy theories.
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22-10-2024, 09:35
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
The goldfinger plot wouldn't make much sense today because we on fiat currency instead of the gold standard. Some question if there is much gold in fort knox any more.
But yes, irradiating the gold of a gold-standard backed currency would have consequences.
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12-04-2025, 04:37
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
GoldenEye would work. Unleashing an EMP over London would indeed wipe most of its records - and while there are offline backups, it would likely take years to restore them. Imagine trying to run the LSE with nothing more sophisticated than abaci.
The trouble is, it's likely to happen naturally. CMEs have hit before, but we didn't have electronics then to be affected. Now we do - and CMEs still occur. 
But I did laugh at Bond seducing his evaluator. Surely M knew what would happen?
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12-04-2025, 11:14
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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The goldfinger plot wouldn't make much sense today because we on fiat currency instead of the gold standard. Some question if there is much gold in fort knox any more.
But yes, irradiating the gold of a gold-standard backed currency would have consequences.
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Yes donnie being one of them, mind you after his special audit I suggest popping down to his gaudy florida safespace and checking the bogs, just to be on the safe side
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12-04-2025, 11:21
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
Their plans are never plausible because they insist on monologuing half an hour before execution, when they briefly capture Bond. So when he inevitably escapes he knows how to stop it happening. Super-villains have terrible OpSec.
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12-04-2025, 11:37
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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Their plans are never plausible because they insist on monologuing half an hour before execution, when they briefly capture Bond. So when he inevitably escapes he knows how to stop it happening. Super-villains have terrible OpSec.
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12-04-2025, 17:36
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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For example, GoldFinger. Would irradiating all the gold in Fort Worth really help him destabilise the gold market and create a huge profit for him.Would flooding Silicon Valley corner the chip market?
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Unlikely, as I don’t believe there’s very much gold in Fort Worth………
But if you are meaning Fort Knox, remember what Jeremy Irons in Die Hard 3 says after breaking into the US Federal Reserve in New York…….
“$140 billion! Ten times what's in Kentucky. Fort Knox? Ha! It's for tourists.”
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12-04-2025, 18:02
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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Unlikely, as I don’t believe there’s very much gold in Fort Worth………
But if you are meaning Fort Knox, remember what Jeremy Irons in Die Hard 3 says after breaking into the US Federal Reserve in New York…….
“$140 billion! Ten times what's in Kentucky. Fort Knox? Ha! It's for tourists.”
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Currently, there are 73.65 million ounces of gold in Fort Worth.
https://www.usmint.gov/about/tours-a...%20Fort%20Knox.
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Amount of present gold holdings: 147.3 million ounces. About half of the Treasury’s stored gold (as well as valuables of other federal agencies) is kept at Fort Knox.
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At the current price of gold of $3,242.42 per ounce, that equates to approximately $238.8 billion…
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12-04-2025, 18:29
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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Currently, there are 73.65 million ounces of gold in Fort Worth.…
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I don’t think there is.
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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I don’t think there is.
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OK
Actually, I got it wrong - it’s about double that amount…
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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OK
Actually, I got it wrong - it’s about double that amount…
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No, you got it wrong.
There are no gold bulllion reserves at Ft Worth.
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
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No, you got it wrong.
There are no gold bulllion reserves at Ft Worth.
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Source, please?
Scott Bessent, Trump’s Treasury Secretary, disagrees…
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...#goog_rewarded
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The Treasury Responds
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was quick to push back against the renewed scepticism. Speaking to talk show host Dan O’Donnell, Bessent dismissed the idea that the gold could be missing.
“We do an audit every year,” Bessent said. “All the gold is present and accounted for.”
O’Donnell noted that Musk had been calling for proof. Bessent replied that any interested senator could request an inspection.
That didn’t satisfy Musk. “Let’s do it,” he responded online, urging officials to allow a fresh, independent review.
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Re: Plausibility of a villain's scheme
Are Fort Knox & Fort Worth getting confused here ?
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