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Election 2019 - Week 2
View Poll Results: Your voting intention at this stage of the campaign:
Labour 7 15.91%
Conservative 22 50.00%
Lib Dem 5 11.36%
UKIP 0 0%
Brexit 2 4.55%
Green 1 2.27%
Change UK 0 0%
Plaid Cymru 0 0%
SNP 1 2.27%
Irish nationalist 1 2.27%
Irish unionist 0 0%
Other 2 4.55%
Abstaining 1 2.27%
Ineligible 0 0%
Undecided 2 4.55%
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Old 14-11-2019, 00:19   #1
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Election 2019 - Week 2

Please continue election discussion in this thread, and vote again in the poll so we can see if there’s been a shift in voting intentions.

For reference, last week’s discussion was here:

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Old 14-11-2019, 13:25   #2
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More patients than ever before are on hospital waiting lists in England and delays in A&E have hit their worst level since records began.

The target to start cancer treatment within 62 days of an urgent referral is also being missed.

The monthly statistics are the worst since targets were introduced, over a decade ago, prompting doctors to warn services were "imploding".

None of the three key hospital targets has been met for over three years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50397856

This is rather bad timing for the Govt, and also for the rest us that use the NHS. Surprised they haven't managed to suppress it till after the election like they have with other bad news, someone's slipped up there !
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This is rather bad timing for the Govt, and also for the rest us that use the NHS. Surprised they haven't managed to suppress it till after the election like they have with other bad news, someone's slipped up there !
The worse figures for 15 years since they started compiling figures

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This is rather bad timing for the Govt, and also for the rest us that use the NHS. Surprised they haven't managed to suppress it till after the election like they have with other bad news, someone's slipped up there !
And that is one of reasons why the Conservatives if they veer too far away from their Brexit narrative are vulnerable IMO
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And that is one of reasons why the Conservatives if they veer too far away from their Brexit narrative are vulnerable IMO
H'mm. Can't see how Labour's 4-day week idea is going to help the waiting list situation!

I don't think the Conservatives have got much to fear from that rabble. Most people with any common sense know that Corbyn and McDonnell are stuffed full of half baked ideas which unravel almost immediately after they are announced.
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H'mm. Can't see how Labour's 4-day week idea is going to help the waiting list situation!

I don't think the Conservatives have got much to fear from that rabble. Most people with any common sense know that Corbyn and McDonnell are stuffed full of half baked ideas which unravel almost immediately after they are announced.
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And we're only in Austerity because the prior Labour Government spent like crazy, meaning there was no money left. (Admission by Labour itself on leaving office 2010). And we'd be there again if that terrorist loving cretin got in No. 10.
Why do you keep peddling these lies?
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H'mm. Can't see how Labour's 4-day week idea is going to help the waiting list situation!

I don't think the Conservatives have got much to fear from that rabble. Most people with any common sense know that Corbyn and McDonnell are stuffed full of half baked ideas which unravel almost immediately after they are announced.
l am not talking about Labour but alas what else can one expect with your usual default parrot response.

l use the NHS all the time and believe you me there ain't much love for the Conservatives with regards to the NHS.

The Conservatives would be wise to try to neutralise the NHS during this election as its a battleground in which they are extremely vulnerable.
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Why do you keep peddling these lies?
Why do you deny the truth?
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l am not talking about Labour but alas what else can one expect from your usual default parrot response.

l use the NHS all the time and believe you me there ain't much love for the Conservatives with regards to the NHS.

The Conservatives would be wise to try to neutralise the NHS during this election as its a battleground in which they are extremely vulnerable.
I know you don't like to hear it, but clearly when you find that the Conservatives have failed at something, it is perfectly reasonable to draw attention to the fact that the other side would only make it worse.

The Conservatives have announced extra money in an effort to address the problem. Labour have pledged more still, but they spoil it all by putting everyone on a four-day week, which would make things even worse!

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Why do you keep peddling these lies?
Labour have admitted it. Are you saying Labour politicians are liars?

Labour would be a disaster for this country. Even worse than the last government, which we are still suffering the effects from now.

Manic spending now = pain tomorrow. Simples.
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I know you don't like to hear it, but clearly when you find that the Conservatives have failed at something, it is perfectly reasonable to draw attention to the fact that the other side would only make it worse.

The Conservatives have announced extra money in an effort to address the problem. Labour have pledged more still, but they spoil it all by putting everyone on a four-day week, which would make things even worse!
Like all the promises whether they are from the Conservatives , Labour or the Lib Dems made during this election campaign they ain't worth the paper they are written on..

Words and promises are cheap...
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As the NHS staff don't exist in the first place, no amount of spending will rectify that. If the Hospitals are looking for staff, but can't find them, the money must've already been set aside in their budgets. That should mean they already have the money available for extra staff.


Sweden spends more on health(3rd highest in EU), but still has long waiting lists, shortages of staff, and missed targets for treatment times.
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I know what we can do, make all the EU staff in the NHS feel like they're not welcome and will be more appreciated elsehere . That'll help.
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Sweden spends more on health(3rd highest in EU), but still has long waiting lists, shortages of staff, and missed targets for treatment times.
I'm not sure if you're allowed to post stuff like that when everyone else is having a rant about the failing UK NHS
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Why do you keep peddling these lies?
He's a disciple of the Trump fake news school........
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I'm shocked at the 6 votes for Labour here. Momentum are trying, maybe succeeding, to gain control of the party and they are deeply anti-semitic. Corbyn heads that bunch and none of you nice folk should give Labour in its current form a moment's kind thought without being tarred by this awful brush.
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