Budget cuts hits charities

[Arthurgray50@blu]

www.skynews.co.uk/homeless

I felt that on this festive day, we should all read the item on Sky news concerning the homeless.

This is what happens in this proud country that when everyone is sitting down eating there Xmas dinner, that because of budget cuts this is effecting the charities that look after the homeless.

I could carry on about it, but if you read the item it will tell you everything.

When Osborne goes through his cuts to save money, where this is going baffles me, but the government cannot continue to make these cuts.

Have a good day.

[Dash: CF noob]

http://news.sky.com/story/1029611/ch...t-the-homeless

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I will try better in 2013 with the links - promise you

[watzizname]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I will try better in 2013 with the links - promise you

I see one of the most quoted post of 2013, right there

Stick to the topic please.

[Taf]

They should do what the Roma are doing in the U.K.: sell the Big Issue for a few hours a day (taking away sales from the true homeless); declare yourself self-employed; then be allowed a N.I. number and loads of benefits including housing!

[alferret]

From link supplied

Many shelters receive local authority funding and expect they will feel the effects of council budget cuts.

We are all feeling the pinch, fortunately I managed to get out of the homeless trap after sleeping rough for a few months when I was a teenager ( Nov 1982-Jan 1983)
Wasn't nice, very cold and miserable time in my young life!
Can't keep blaming this government for everything tho Arfur, they didn't start the slide into this but are having to pick up the pieces of the former government.
Can't keep giving money away, the more just dished out to charities the less that goes to cutting the deficit therefore prolonging the cesspit we're in now.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Alferret, you have hit the nail on the head over 'can't keep blaming the government tho'.

Read in today's paper that Osborne has allowed his department a pay INCREASE this year, and has stated that this is to allow private investment to be brought in.

We ARE in a worse position now then we were in UNDER Mrs Thatcher, as least she didn't cut the Police service down to the bear bone,

Charities in my view should NOT have to depend on donations from the publuc alone, we waste billions per year on overseas aid, to countries that dont need it, and billions on things that are a total waste of time, we have food piling up in warehouses to be sent abroad, wehere we have people in this country depending on charities and now food banks.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Alferret, you have hit the nail on the head over 'can't keep blaming the government tho'.

Read in today's paper that Osborne has allowed his department a pay INCREASE this year, and has stated that this is to allow private investment to be brought in.

We ARE in a worse position now then we were in UNDER Mrs Thatcher, as least she didn't cut the Police service down to the bear bone,

Charities in my view should NOT have to depend on donations from the publuc alone, we waste billions per year on overseas aid, to countries that dont need it, and billions on things that are a total waste of time, we have food piling up in warehouses to be sent abroad, wehere we have people in this country depending on charities and now food banks.

Totally lost me there arthur ,might help if you stick to one point .You started agreeing with Alferret which means you don't blame the government and ended up stating that we have warehouses full of food.Kind a ramble don't you think ?

You start a thread complaining that charities are feeling the pinch but complain when the government give overseas aid .I presume that means you want overseas aid to stop meaning people could die as a result in favour of giving home charities more .

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Here we go, charity begins at home, what happens in counties in nothing to do with me, and shouldn't effect us in any form.

There are people in this country that needs help ie financial, food and the poor and needy, you walk the streets of London which l have done many times, and there are people in desperate need of food and health care but they depend on charities for there help. As if they go to there benefit agency - they need an address to get benefit, if you are homeless you don't get that.

Any yet you read in the papers like l did today and Osborne gave his staff a pay rise in a bid to get private investment.

You cannot blame the previous governments for what is happening today, Charities should not have to depend on donations from the public, they should get financial help from the government.
The government can stop overseas aid tomorrow, we should look after our own before giving to other countries.

I am sure that if you walk through the streets of your own town there are people that need help - what about them, would you walk past them to give to another country.

Arthur, what paper did you read this in, please?

btw, "You cannot blame the previous governments for what is happening today" - amusing from someone who seems to blame Thatcher for everything.....

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hugh, The article that l got the info from re Osborne was The DAILY STAR, page 2, of Boxing Day.

It states ' Treasury staff on six figure sums has DOUBLED in two years, the Home office has seen a 50% in seen increase in salaries in the Equalities office and all treasury staff earning more than £100.000 also rose in 2011/12 compared to to just 2009/10.

Yet the government is slashing funds for the police and benefits, isn't this a case of looking after the rich and all those pen pushers in Whitehall.

I have always said that cuts have to be made from the top, l would love to earn £100.000 a year for doing and 8/9 hour day.
The amazing thing is Hugh, Under Thatcher, she selected certain parts of this country, she crushed the miners for standing up for there rights, she nearly destroyed this country with the Poll Tax, NHS was nearly ruined.

Now under the Coalition, we have the whole scenario started all again - the Student riots (similar to the Poll Tax) the police are now being hit instead of the Miners and the NHS is being destroyed by closing A/E Hospitals wards are being closed - unemployment is high- does that ring a bell.

Do wee see any member of the Government losing there jobs - No.

Budgets cuts are destroying this country, it will come to a crunch, when next year we will see LESS police officers on the streets, police stations closing.

In the borough where my son works in Ealing, they are closing down the station there and everything is being moved to Southall or Acton and to make matters worse New Scotland Yard will be sold off, what government buildings are going - NONE.

From the Mail on the same story...

The parliamentary figures show that the number of Treasury staff on more than £80,000 also increased – from 47 before the election to 75 last year.

A spokesman said the huge rise was the result of the department’s absorption of an organisation called Infrastructure UK.

This consists of former business leaders who advise the government on Britain’s long-term infrastructure priorities and bring in private sector investment.

The Government Equalities Office, which is led by Culture Secretary Maria Miller, has increased the number of civil servants on six figures from one in 2009/10 to two in 2012/13
As former business leaders they demand commercial pay rates.

Before the election, these people’s salaries were only half-funded by the Treasury. Now they are fully funded by the taxpayer.

The spokesman said that without Infrastructure UK, the numbers of six-figure staff would have fallen slightly.

Yet even since the absorption, the numbers on more than £100,000 rose in the following year, from 37 to 39.

He also pointed out that the total headcount in the department had fallen from 1,386 before the election to 1,187 in 2011/12.

And the amount spent on salaries had fallen from £70.6million to £59.3million.

At the Home Office, the number of staff on six figures has increased by a half from 24 to 36.

The Department for Energy and Climate Change, headed by the Lib Dems’ Ed Davey, now has 15 staff on £100,000 or more – up from 10 before the election.

And the Government Equalities Office, which is led by Culture Secretary Maria Miller, has increased the number of civil servants on six figures from one in 2009/10 to two in 2012/13.

Other departments such as the Cabinet Office have seen increases over the past year, although the totals are still lower than when Labour were in power.

So, they have less people overall, and are spending less on salaries - strange how that wasn't the headline...

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Now that wasn't in The Star.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Now that wasn't in The Star.

It wasn't, was it .



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