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Old 15-12-2011, 22:30   #1
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3D using TiVo
Not sure if there is a thread on this, couldn't search for 3D

Having just got a new 3D TV, I just wanted to express my views on it using my TiVo.

The TV I got was a budget Samsung 43” D490 3D Plasma TV (PS43D490A1WXXU)

I have my TiVo connected by HDMI to a Samsung Home Cinema HT-D5530 Bluray 3D player which connects to my TV also by HDMI.

Although it is not Full HDTV, the picture quality is far superior than my old Phillips 37" LCD HDTV (again 720p)

This TV is available for under £400 and is well worth the money if your looking for a cheap 3D TV
http://www.richersounds.com/product/.../sams-ps43d490

Picture looks sharper and more defined than my old one (not sure if this is a normal LCD via Plasma debate) but I wanted to test out the 3D on demand stuff from VM.
The stuff I looked at was very impressive (the VM logo pop-out in particular looked stunning)

Is there likely to be more 3D content coming up on VM, ie ESPN 3D events or similar?
How often is the content renewed on VOD?

Also I need to manually select the 3D viewing option on my TV, will there be any future update to the TiVo that will send a signal to my TV to change automatically when 3D content is played? Perhaps when the Samsung box is out?
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Old 15-12-2011, 22:45   #2
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Um... you paid more for a 3DTV, yet it's not full HD? I don't get it.

Sorry it's not very helpful a very helpful response, but I'm confused. I thought 1080p full HD far outweighed 3DTV as a key feature.
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Old 15-12-2011, 22:50   #3
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Re: 3D using TiVo
I read a lot of reviews on this TV, and the majority said for the price it is one of the best on the market.

Full HD might be an advantage on a bigger screen, but for that size I reckon at my viewing range it looks no different to 1080p TV's I have seen.

I'd decided I wanted a 3D TV, so for the money I think I got a great deal IMO. Plus I couldn't justify the extra few £100 quid it would have cost for a 1080p model
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Old 15-12-2011, 23:45   #4
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Me personally, I can tell the difference between a 720p LCD TV and a 1080p LCD TV with sizes as low as 26" with naked eye, it's big in terms of sharpness and pixel count. It's less obvious when HDMI sources are used, but it's there.

The thing is, adoption of 3DTV has been low because of the expense, slowness to standardise between manufacturers, the clunky glasses and the amount of shovelware 3D movies that have soured public interest in the format.

My perspective is it's nice to have as a bonus feature but 1080p is more important overall as there's lots of content available. Anything recorded on 35m film has a high resolution and can be scanned down to 1080p easily using digital mastering/compression techniques. Therefore, it's possible for even old movies from the 40s and 50s to be shown in HD. Whereas with modern polarized 3D films they either have to be filmed with a special (and VERY expensive) 3D motion picture camera, or an existing 2D film painstakingly converted which involves hundreds of man hours digitally manipulating the footage. The latter has been critically panned.

Long story short, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, I guess. Best bet for polarized 3D content is a 3D Blu-ray player and an extensive 3D Blu-ray collection. On TV networks there's just not much interest or (more crucially) profit in it right now, so even paid-for On Demand content is scarce.
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Old 16-12-2011, 00:10   #5
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Agree with most of that, I do wear glasses though.. maybe need them checked haha

3DTV's have come down massively in price, yeah its probably a fad but its good to sit down with the family and watch a 3D movie.. the other half was very wary about it but when she watched it the other day even she was impressed by the tech involved.

What surprised me the most about the set up I have, is the 2D > 3D conversion.. e.g I put on Eastenders and it surprised me the depth it made it look.. maybe am easy pleased though haha
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Re: 3D using TiVo
Oh I agree, if it's done right the 3D effect is a fun little extra, nice to have. It's just that it's been pushed by Hollywood as the future of film so much that people are apathetical about it now, as you yourself found out with your missus.

I look at it like those Dolby psuedo-Surround effects... they're not going to change the world, but they can improve immersion a little bit.

What I'm looking forward to is Super Hi-Vision. You know how an iPhone 4 has unbelievable sharpness on that tiny screen because of the high resolution and very fine dot pitch? Imagine that multiplied by four and on a 60" plasma screen. It will have better resolution than real life, just like they said in Futurama.
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Yeah its a fad, but am sure I will enjoy it while it lasts..

And hopefully VM get more content on and channels to show it off
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Agree with most of that, I do wear glasses though.. maybe need them checked haha

3DTV's have come down massively in price, yeah its probably a fad but its good to sit down with the family and watch a 3D movie.. the other half was very wary about it but when she watched it the other day even she was impressed by the tech involved.

What surprised me the most about the set up I have, is the 2D > 3D conversion.. e.g I put on Eastenders and it surprised me the depth it made it look.. maybe am easy pleased though haha
The strictly come dancing 3D production showed 3D off pretty well tonight even if the shows utter junk
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The strictly come dancing 3D production showed 3D off pretty well tonight even if the shows utter junk
Yes we had it on in the office, looked good...don't like the show though
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don't like the show though
Totally agree with that
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The strictly come dancing 3D production showed 3D off pretty well tonight even if the shows utter junk
IMO 3D and the show are junk. I have tried 3D in Comet and Currys.
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IMO 3D and the show are junk.
You seem to say a lot of things you don't have are junk , you can't make a uniformed decision until you've used one at length in the home environment. So far you've told us 3D is junk , Sky News HD is junk and a waste of bandwidth and Sky Atlantic is poor despite the fact you've probably never seen any of them

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I have 3D in Comet and Currys.
So you've viewed it once in a shop
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You seem to say a lot of things you don't have are junk , you can't make a uniformed decision until you've used one at length in the home environment. So far you've told us 3D is junk , Sky News HD is junk and a waste of bandwidth and Sky Atlantic is poor despite the fact you've probably never seen any of them
I know what you mean about Sky Atlantic. I might actually end up liking some of the shows when it eventually comes.

I do not see the point in HD news channels. I not the only one that thinks that.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5405.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...y-news-hd.html
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So you've viewed it once in a shop
Actually twice.

I stand by what i said.

3D could actually be fading.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1593120
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I know what you mean about Sky Atlantic. I might actually end up liking some of the shows when it eventually comes.

I do not see the point in HD news channels. I not the only one that thinks that.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5405.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...y-news-hd.html
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Actually twice.

I stand by what i said.

3D could actually be fading.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1593120
Why because the OP in that link said it is
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Why because the OP in that link said it is
Try reading this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15967276

That was in the link that i posted to.
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