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Old 18-10-2011, 17:52   #1
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500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

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I presume that many of the people in the queue didn't realise that Poundland only guarantee a sixteen hour working week.
When the Government state that there are 10,000 jobs available every day at the Job Centre they fail to mention how many of those jobs consist of just a few hours a week, seems to me that even if a person had three of these jobs at the same time it still wouldn't add up to a living wage.
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Old 18-10-2011, 18:00   #2
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Re: 500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

Yes, it's a real pity. It's also a pity the previous government failed to put away some of our tax revenues for a rainy day, choosing instead to urinate them up the wall on their pet Big State projects and leaving the country basically broke when the financial excrement impacted upon the air cooling device.
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Re: 500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

Still, while depressing so many people will miss out, credit to them for going for it.
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Re: 500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

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Yes, it's a real pity. It's also a pity the previous government failed to put away some of our tax revenues for a rainy day, choosing instead to urinate them up the wall on their pet Big State projects and leaving the country basically broke when the financial excrement impacted upon the air cooling device.
Prundence is what they were supposed to be using, Somehow i dont think Prudence got a look in
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Re: 500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

I wonder how many of those going for these jobs worked there when this store used to be TJ Hughes
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Re: 500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

dire state of affairs. this just makes me want to impress even more tomorrow at my assessment.
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dire state of affairs. this just makes me want to impress even more tomorrow at my assessment.
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dire state of affairs. this just makes me want to impress even more tomorrow at my assessment.
As I have said to others before

Wear a suit, polish shoes, clean shaven, remove any dodgy jewellery (somebody went to an interview with a canabis leaf necklace).

But most of all be early, and find out about the company.
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Re: 500 queue for just 20 sales assistant jobs

those 10k jobs is very misleading.

it is not new 10k every day, there is just 10k advertised at any given time.
also some arent jobs at all but agencies rather advertising a job that doesnt exist so they can get people on the books.
some jobs (in fact a lot) are one off only like, might be 1 week work and thats it.
the vast majority of the permanent jobs are part time and usually also min wage.
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those 10k jobs is very misleading.

it is not new 10k every day, there is just 10k advertised at any given time.
also some arent jobs at all but agencies rather advertising a job that doesnt exist so they can get people on the books.
some jobs (in fact a lot) are one off only like, might be 1 week work and thats it.
the vast majority of the permanent jobs are part time and usually also min wage.
so true governments love to lie to try safe face. Probably 2,000 those are likely real jobs ie full week paid but then they likely low skilled to boot. However there will be some which so high skilled employers struggling to fill that roll. Example hospital maybe looking for neurologic consultant you cant force someone with no qualifications or not suitable to that position.

So I think Governments should be forced to categorise this show REAL figures not retric trashy lines theres 10,000 jobs.

How many are less 12 hours a week
how many less 12-21 hours
Agency jobs
Schemes
Apprenticeships
Moderate skilled level jobs A-level city guilds level
medium skilled level jobs secretary, btec standard
high skilled jobs management level etc unerversity post graduate rolls
very high skilled such doctors, consultants

Some might think better list but you get what saying folks. This should be done for EACH town show the true plight.

General weasel statements dont do anybody favours its about time its properly revealed. Problem is papers wont they towing the line unemployed are lazy ****. Its been very disgraceful actions from both Labour and Conservative/Libdem coalisition. It sickens you the persacution of the unemployed(yes there some wont work), disabled and elderly.

Time to call truce to this blood letting from powers to be who turning people against each other.

On unemployed there will never ever be 100% employment its impossible dream surely even if few workshy surely it means people who work get another job therefore dont have life turned upside down. Its food for thought if these people happy and found a way it works then surely if we will never get dream full employment may as well accept these workshy.

The other change the rules on partime employment - to JSA help not rocket science many unemployed CANT take partime work as they lose complete entitlement work the JSA on daily rate if pearson works 1 day gets 4 days JSA. GETS to keep full entitlement just loses 1 day JSA. Country STILL gains by 5 JSA claiments take 1 day paid work its equivelant of 1 claiment off the books.

Think about that if 1 million claiments DO THAT thats right 200,000 OFF the books yes they still will get there entitlements so it reduces slightly but its WORTH the change.

Now obviously it would been means tested if claiment earns £300 which would like to see wage like that out there for 1 days work. But you get the drift there MANY ways they can change to make it easier.

Another make it so people dont need to produce pay slips intregrate the system so its already known what you earn as its all in the same setup with TAXMAN.
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also some arent jobs at all but agencies rather advertising a job that doesnt exist so they can get people on the books.
That happens a LOT - Manpower confirmed it for me.

A few years ago I was out of work and applying all over the place. I saw some jobs in Manpower's window that I would have been ideal for. I jumped through all the hoops of filling out loads of forms as agencies like you to do and when I didn't get so far as an interview I asked them why and one of their people told me they often put jobs which don't exist in their windows as they have targets to meet, for example x number of IT Graduates etc on their books at any one time so they make up jobs that people with those types of qualifications will apply for.

I asked if that was legal and she replied "Probably not but all agencies do it at some point or other". I asked her if she thought it was ethical and again she just said that "all agencies do it".
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Yes, it's a real pity. It's also a pity the previous government failed to put away some of our tax revenues for a rainy day, choosing instead to urinate them up the wall on their pet Big State projects and leaving the country basically broke when the financial excrement impacted upon the air cooling device.
Equally depressing the current one is more interested in propping up insolvent banks, protecting overextended borrowers and inflating away debt for political reasons than people's eroding living standards.

Crossing their fingers and hoping they can defer the real pain until after the next election, however much money thrown into the banking system it takes to keep the bubbles inflated.
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That happens a LOT - Manpower confirmed it for me.

A few years ago I was out of work and applying all over the place. I saw some jobs in Manpower's window that I would have been ideal for. I jumped through all the hoops of filling out loads of forms as agencies like you to do and when I didn't get so far as an interview I asked them why and one of their people told me they often put jobs which don't exist in their windows as they have targets to meet, for example x number of IT Graduates etc on their books at any one time so they make up jobs that people with those types of qualifications will apply for.

I asked if that was legal and she replied "Probably not but all agencies do it at some point or other". I asked her if she thought it was ethical and again she just said that "all agencies do it".
Its obvious why they do it, if they get a company that wants 500 workers next week, and if agency can supply those workers it can get contract.

Easier to supply those 500 workers when you already have 500 phone numbers on the books to ring.

But I dont think its ethical to advertise a job that dont exist.
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