So what do you get from Tivo over V+ HD?

[cambridgemark]

Sorry if there's already a thread on this, can't seem to find anything relevant.

I've currently got a V+ HD box with XL TV without Movies or Sport.

So what does Tivo offer differently? Looking at the official VM page it just mentions all the on demand content and pick of the weeks tv etc. Is that different to the On Demand/Catch Up stuff I already have?

[BenMcr]

The content is exactly the same. However the difference is how it's accessed, so it will learn what you watch and suggest things you would like etc

[Cozzy]

as far as i know the on demand/catch up is currently exactly the same ... though this may change over time

the only real advantage i can see is its search capabilities are greatly improved and can even search online content though i suspect that will be heavily restricted to which sites and providers

other than that as far as i can tell its just newer hardware that works better and faster (which you would expect from a newer device)

others with Tivo will be here soon to promote anything I have missed

[cambridgemark]

Cool. So unless someone comes in with some other stuff there's no point of me trying to get a Tivo as I'm really not too bothered about the way it searches

[Pbryanw]

Also should note that the new TiVo box has a 1TB Hard-drive, compared to the 160GB one in the V+. Probably will appeal if you're someone who records lots of programmes (especially HD stuff) to your V+ HD, rather then someone who uses catchup a lot.

[muppetman11]

Cant access BBC red button though i believe.

[nodrogd]

The HD recording capability will be the hook for most people, more than different content.

What I haven't seen anyone mention yet is how many tuners it has, and is there still the facility to archive in SD to a DVD recorder.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by nodrogd

The HD recording capability will be the hook for most people, more than different content.

What I haven't seen anyone mention yet is how many tuners it has, and is there still the facility to archive in SD to a DVD recorder.

The V+ records HD.

[Topgun]

Originally Posted by nodrogd

The HD recording capability will be the hook for most people, more than different content.
What I haven't seen anyone mention yet is how many tuners it has, and is there still the facility to archive in SD to a DVD recorder.

At the moment it has two tuners enabled, although apparantly the third will be enabled by a software update in March. Re your question about backing up to DVD see here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-and-tips.html

[savvychels]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

The V+ records HD.

Perhaps they actually meant 'HD recording capacity' rather than capability. While the V+ does record HD it really limits the amount you can save on the hard drive. With 1TB, for those that record in HD it could be a big hook.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by savvychels

Perhaps they actually meant 'HD recording capacity' rather than capability. While the V+ does record HD it really limits the amount you can save on the hard drive. With 1TB, for those that record in HD it could be a big hook.

Agreed 1TB is loads better , I wish VM would change over to Mpeg4 meaning even more recording capacity.

[Stephen]

Check out www.TiVo.com to get a better idea of what TiVo can do and how it works. VM version obviously is slightly different.

[Rattus]

The main advantage Tivo has always had is its searches and Intelligent series linking.

It'll remember series you've recorded before and record new seasons when they start if you forget. They also should be able to distinguish between series properly unlike V+ which records anything by name on a specific time be it new or old. It basically series links like the V+ should have but didn't.

It'll also record stuff it thinks you might like based on what you have recorded before. So like sci fi? If a new sci fi series starts somewhere it'll record it for you.

For me things like net connections are fluff.. i've never used them on my Bluray and doubt i'll ever use them in a TV. Searching info about series/actors online? It'll just end up being someone somewhere trying to sell you something.

Online streaming of content? <SD quality picture with no 5.1 sound? No thanks.

Oh and a bigger hard disk, something we've been promised since the TVdrive was released.

[foddy]

Originally Posted by Rattus

The main advantage Tivo has always had is its searches and Intelligent series linking.

Ah yes, this is the best bit. It'll record an episode on a different channel if there's a conflict, and you can set it to only record new episodes. The TV guide should be much better than the current one, although that may come to V+ too later...

I used to have an S1 Tivo, and recording random things was occasionally useful, but wasn't a must-have for me. These days, with catch-up, it's probably even less useful.

The interface on the Tivo is likely to be much better, too. But that'll be a personal choice. Things like iPad apps will be nice, too ... once they come.

Generally, there's a lot of potential. Switching from a S1 Tivo with one tuner (actually one scart input and an infra-red blaster) that occasionally didn't change channels to a (then) modern V+ with three tuners wasn't an entirely positive move for me. I'm hoping that the new Tivo will be the best of both worlds.

Online streaming of content? <SD quality picture with no 5.1 sound? No thanks.

There's a rumour that LoveFilm may be coming to Tivo. Streamed picture/sound quality is something which may well change.

[Perfect Choice]

I think VM will certainly be aiming to provide streaming of HD films from the likes of Lovefilm, after all they have provided a separate dedicated 10MB link into the Tivo box and I read before that they are configuring the backbone network to provide shall we say a superhighway for performance driven content access.

This is only the start I feel, it will take time though but the underlying capability is certainly there giving VM and unique edge on performance and flexibility.