Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Torrents + Throttling

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Virgin Media Services > Virgin Media Internet Service
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Torrents + Throttling
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 16-05-2010, 16:37   #1
Rowan
Inactive
 
Rowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 35
Services: Virgin Media XL TV/Broadband/Phone Package 20mb Broadband
Posts: 25
Rowan is on a distinguished roadRowan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Rowan
Torrents + Throttling

Hi,

Usually I can seed stuff on my uTorrent fine at full speeds but lately ive noticed it acting up.

Sometimes it will come up my full speed of around 90kB/s and then 10secs later it cuts everyone out etc.

Ive read up a little on this traffic management/throttling thing they introduced but im not sure if thats what is affecting it.

Is there anyway to tell if my internet is giving me the full load or if im being "managed" etc etc??

Thanks and all help is appreciated,

Rowan

PS : I have VM XL 20meg and in my uTorrent I have the ports etc forwarded in my Netgear WNR2000 router which is also all updated and im hard wired.

Rowan is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 16-05-2010, 16:40   #2
Risco
Inactive
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Maidstone
Services: VIP; BB XL; TiVo 1TB; V+HD
Posts: 674
Risco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to beholdRisco is a splendid one to behold
Re: Torrents + Throttling

You do not need to manually forward ports, UDP does it for you. I have the same modem ( much better than the crappy D-Link ) and no issues with torrents.
Risco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2010, 18:31   #3
Rowan
Inactive
 
Rowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 35
Services: Virgin Media XL TV/Broadband/Phone Package 20mb Broadband
Posts: 25
Rowan is on a distinguished roadRowan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Rowan
Re: Torrents + Throttling

I was told that 2.0.1 had problems and to go back to 1.8.5..

But I was also told to make my Windows 7 comp have a STATIC IP.

I was told how to do it but how do I find out what the Prefered DNS setting are??
Rowan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2010, 11:17   #4
bbwannabe
Inactive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 40
Posts: 567
bbwannabe is a jewel in the roughbbwannabe is a jewel in the roughbbwannabe is a jewel in the roughbbwannabe is a jewel in the roughbbwannabe is a jewel in the rough
Re: Torrents + Throttling

When i got the latest utorrent version , my upload speeds were very low. Constantly. I switched to an older version and it seems to be back to the way it was.
bbwannabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2010, 11:54   #5
Kymmy
Inactive
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,398
Kymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny stars
Kymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny starsKymmy has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
I was told that 2.0.1 had problems and to go back to 1.8.5..

But I was also told to make my Windows 7 comp have a STATIC IP.

I was told how to do it but how do I find out what the Prefered DNS setting are??
I think they mean a static IP on your router's LAN (if you use one) as you can't have a static on the WAN with VM's residential service.

The Static IP on the LAN means you can manually forward the relevant ports on the router to the PC running torrents.. (if using a direct 2 modem connection then this is not needed)
Kymmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 10:55   #6
Rowan88
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
Services: Virgin Media VIP Package, Netgear WNR2000 Router
Posts: 40
Rowan88 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Rowan88
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Thanks for the help.


I managed to set it up yesterday so that I was getting my full upload speed between 3 very active torrents.

I woke up this morning though and im lucky if I can manage 2kB/s lolol.


Is there anything that I can do to help this out? Or check if im being throttled or anything lololol.


Hate this now, also these are my power levels if this helps:

Quote:
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 69
Downstream Frequency : 299000000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : -4.9 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 39.1 dB
Quote:
Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 1
Upstream Frequency : 47400000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QAM16
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 61.0 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2
Rowan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:09   #7
AbyssUnderground
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Merseyside
Age: 35
Services: BT Infinity Option 2, HH5, synced at maximum 80Mbps/20Mbps.
Posts: 2,221
AbyssUnderground has reached the bronze age
AbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze ageAbyssUnderground has reached the bronze age
Send a message via MSN to AbyssUnderground
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Upstream too high. You need a tech to fix it.
AbyssUnderground is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:15   #8
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 68
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,657
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Your upload rate in utorrent (or any P2P client) should be throttled BY YOU to 80% of the bandwidth available. This will allow for the overheads and stop your upstream from becoming blocked.

IMO your upstream power level as posted above is way to high (check here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...al-levels.html ) and may be symptomatic of your settings in utorrent. Change the upload rate in options/preferences/bandwidth in utorrent and see if the u/s power level comes down. If not you need a tech out to sort it for you.

I would also recommend using version 1.8.5 ATM
pip08456 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:21   #9
Rowan88
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
Services: Virgin Media VIP Package, Netgear WNR2000 Router
Posts: 40
Rowan88 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Rowan88
Re: Torrents + Throttling

1. Is my area (Glasgow) definetly under the throttling system??
2. I tried going down to 1.8.5 but didnt notice a big difference.
3. Can they fix the levels over the phone or does someone need to actually come out to the house? (its just ive got a friend who works in tech I could ask)
4. The power levels have been like that for a good couple of months, I remember checking before.
Rowan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:36   #10
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 68
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,657
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowan88 View Post
1. Is my area (Glasgow) definetly under the throttling system??
2. I tried going down to 1.8.5 but didnt notice a big difference.
3. Can they fix the levels over the phone or does someone need to actually come out to the house? (its just ive got a friend who works in tech I could ask)
4. The power levels have been like that for a good couple of months, I remember checking before.
Everyone with a 10Mb/20Mb connection with VM is under STM. If your upstream power level has been like that for a good couple of months then I would consider that to be the problem. - Can't be fixed over the phone.
pip08456 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:46   #11
Rowan88
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
Services: Virgin Media VIP Package, Netgear WNR2000 Router
Posts: 40
Rowan88 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Rowan88
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Dammit,

Ive sent a text to my friend to see if he could reduce it.

Is there anyway I can tell if "i am" under the STM? Like an online test or something.. my utorrent went a little higher up to 11kB/s.

I play on xbox live also so would this not effect all that aswell?
Rowan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:50   #12
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 68
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,657
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
Re: Torrents + Throttling

EAsily done. Stop all progs using bandwidth (utorrent etc) go to speedtest.net and run a test. If the result returns 25% both up and down of the package you're on - you're throttled. If not the problem lies elsewhere.
pip08456 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 12:55   #13
Rowan88
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
Services: Virgin Media VIP Package, Netgear WNR2000 Router
Posts: 40
Rowan88 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Rowan88
Re: Torrents + Throttling

Ok,

Speedtest.bbmax: DOWNLOAD : 19526kbps -- UPLOAD : 721kbps -- PING : 51ms
Speedtest.net(UK) : DOWNLOAD : 8.92mbps -- UPLOAD : 0.71mbps -- PING : 40ms
Speedtest.net(Germany) : DOWNLOAD : 18.79mbs -- UPLOAD : 0.72mbs -- PING : 42ms
Rowan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 13:01   #14
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 68
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,657
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
Re: Torrents + Throttling

That doesn't look like a VM throttled connection. Have you altered the upload rate in utorrent to 80% available. If so then it's down to the high upstream power level which will need a tech visit.
pip08456 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2010, 13:04   #15
Rowan88
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
Services: Virgin Media VIP Package, Netgear WNR2000 Router
Posts: 40
Rowan88 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Rowan88
Re: Torrents + Throttling

I just find it weird that I used it last night and it was fine, this morning the speed is crap..

I've tried uT 1.8.5 and no change, and my friend who is on 10meg and stays local says his upload on new uT is fine... so it must be the levels, but at the same time , I dont get why it was working last night :S

Another thing ive just noticed is on my uTorrent 2.0.2 its got the RED ICON at the bottom saying about my router ports. I've got the port set as 60606 and on my router my computer IP and port 60606 are forwarded for UDP and TCP. Any ideas?
Rowan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:17.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.