browns not backing down so looks like more road blocks ahead

[seaofpepsicola]

Truck drivers have said if brown does not lower fuel, then they will block oil refineries...see second link

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

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"We want 25p off a litre now otherwise we will block the oil refineries."


http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news...n_fuel_tax.php

I feel it is right what these truckers are wanting...and they are right in saying it is they that make the UK run...and the government know this...yet it will be the government saying the truckers are holding the UK to ransom...when it is naturally the reverse isn't it???

Think we better start stocking up

Everyone who's feeling the pinch should be out there protesting with the truckers!. If rising petrol prices are a global problem, then why are prices in other country's nowhere near as high as this one? Greedy government TAX TAX and more TAX. What a racket!

[frogstamper]

Of course the price of petrol is way high, its gone from $14 a barrel in 2000 to over $130 a barrel now, if Brown were to take 25p off the price of a litre that would mean cuts of millions to the public purse, which in turn means who's going to suffer, the police, hospitals, defence or our kid's education. He no doubt would love to get in everybody's good books by slashing tax on petrol, but his all to aware its a lot more complicated than that.

[seaofpepsicola]

So it seems if he is not willing to cut prices, then it seems those haulage guys are going to pack it in as it is not worth it, and where does that leave the UK then.

It seems a catch 22 either way...UK is finished...

[ginge51]

Originally Posted by seaofpepsicola

So it seems if he is not willing to cut prices, then it seems those haulage guys are going to pack it in as it is not worth it, and where does that leave the UK then.

It seems a catch 22 either way...UK is finished...

Simple, he cuts the prices of petrol.
Problem solved, so what the government will lose money, It's about time we seen a "decrease in a taxed product in this country, every other tax has risen, whilst none at all have fallen for years.

[seaofpepsicola]

hiya

So if he cuts the price of petrol Mr. Brown has to get that loss back from somewhere, so I do not think it is as simple as that. Also he has said inflation has risen in line with the world economy, so he has to keep the balance somewhere or it throws world economy out of kilter.

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hiya

Makes me think has this fuel crisis been created on purpose, as Brown is intent on Nuclear energy as the way forwards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7424158.stm

I think David Icke has got it spot on -

PROBLEM (FUEL CRISIS)

REACTION (Lorry Haulage Drivers up in arms) obviously without them knowing real reason

SOLUTION (Government implement steps to NUCLEAR power making it look like it was us that demanded it)

I do not trust this government and if this is the case then everyone is falling into the trap when they think they are having a say or a right.

[BBKing]

The truckers are saying 'cut government spending or we close down Britain'. That's forcing a democratic government to change policy by using undemocratic means. We sometimes call that terrorism. I certainly won't be joining them.

Originally Posted by BBKing

The truckers are saying 'cut government spending or we close down Britain'. That's forcing a democratic government to change policy by using undemocratic means. We sometimes call that terrorism. I certainly won't be joining them.

Democracy? What democracy? The government started closing down Britain years ago! What would you call that?

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Enuff

Democracy? What democracy? The government started closing down Britain years ago! What would you call that?

hear hear.

[RUSTY]

hear hear from me as well. `mind you if I could have the proposed £38,000 expenses the MPs are after suppose I might just manage.....

[WHISTLED]

Democracy? What democracy? The government started closing down Britain years ago! What would you call that?

They were voted in so .... a democracy!

[Osem]

IIRC (as happened with so many of his soundbite utterances) Bliar claimed he wouldn't be forced into changing govt. policy at the time of the last fuel blockades, then did just that by putting off planned duty increases for 2 years. These people are full of so much hot air.........

Originally Posted by seaofpepsicola

Makes me think has this fuel crisis been created on purpose, as Brown is intent on Nuclear energy as the way forwards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7424158.stm

I think David Icke has got it spot on -

PROBLEM (FUEL CRISIS)

REACTION (Lorry Haulage Drivers up in arms) obviously without them knowing real reason

SOLUTION (Government implement steps to NUCLEAR power making it look like it was us that demanded it)

I do not trust this government and if this is the case then everyone is falling into the trap when they think they are having a say or a right.

That is absurd. The rising cost of fuel is being experenced world-wide. The oil itself is more expensive.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/sci...ing/index.html

Originally Posted by CNN

In January 2008, oil prices reached the not so magic $100 figure. Five months on and a barrel of light sweet crude oil is pushing towards $130. Some, like Goldman Sachs and the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) think oil might soon cost upwards of $200 a barrel. Good for the oil companies who are posting record profits -- watch John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil Company, the U.S. division of Royal Dutch Shell defend rising profits -- but bad for industry and consumers.

Almost every other country has the same problem...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS...oil/index.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-gridlock.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...Story/Business

[seaofpepsicola]

hiya

yes almost every other country has the same problem...David Icke is not just on about UK he is on about global domination....

you know think outside the box...

just because they were voted in does not make it a democracy...think about it you voted in the people that have kicked the UK in the balls..in fact the UK has no balls left...its been sold off left, right and centre, too many examples to list.

The people think they have a say with voting...which makes it look like a democracy, but look the government are not listening to fuel protestors...in fact I think I read that they are reducing it by 2p...wow!!! no doubt they will tax something else at 20p...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1220336.ece

Originally Posted by seaofpepsicola

hiya

yes almost every other country has the same problem...David Icke is not just on about UK he is on about global domination....

you know think outside the box...

just because they were voted in does not make it a democracy...think about it you voted in the people that have kicked the UK in the balls..in fact the UK has no balls left...its been sold off left, right and centre, too many examples to list.

The people think they have a say with voting...which makes it look like a democracy, but look the government are not listening to fuel protestors...in fact I think I read that they are reducing it by 2p...wow!!! no doubt they will tax something else at 20p...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1220336.ece

Well, the Issue is not made up to promote alternative energy sources, that is just a natural result of the problem we have with oil and the continued problem we are going to have.

David Icke is a wacko anyway, of course he is going to think everything is a conspiracy, this is a guy who belives the world is controlled by reptilian overloads.

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you know think outside the box...

You only think outside the box if you have evidence for the claims you make, he is just making stuff up that sounds dodgy.