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Old 21-07-2005, 22:51   #1
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car cigarette lighters

or rather, lack of. My little motor doesn't have one of these in it. However, having one would be very useful, for my GPS and the like. I've had a quick flick through my haynes manual and the details on cigarette lighters in there are very sketchy to say the least....

I've had a look round on all the car forums etc and there is little if no detail at all anywhere on how to replace/fit cigarette lighters in any cars... I can't even find a supplier of replacement ones short of going and busting a car at a scrappy either at the moment, surely something which seems so small can't be so hard to find

Also, should adding extra components like that which need 12v DC from the cigarette lighter socket be done properly through the socket and wiring up to the fuse board etc, is it very risky splicing a wire from say the 12v stereo supply and then grounding elsewhere?
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oh, forgot to mention it's a phase 1 peugeot 106, L reg...
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Run a fat wire from the positive to your socket from the battery, deal with the negative via the nearest earth point on the chassis making sure the contacts have no paint / gunk to interfere...

A suitable fuse should be in line on your positive run from the battery, preferable close to the battery.

hope this helps....
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Run a fat wire from the positive to your socket from the battery, deal with the negative via the nearest earth point on the chassis making sure the contacts have no paint / gunk to interfere...

A suitable fuse should be in line on your positive run from the battery, preferable close to the battery.

hope this helps....
kinda. The thing is at the moment there is no cigarette lighter socket at all, so i've got to source one of those, which is much more difficult than i thought. Is it a case of following the positive terminal connection from the battery into the main wiring and then pulling a positive wire out from there?

i might do automotive engineering but i don't have a clue
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Re: car cigarette lighters

wiring is proply there al ready you just need
to find it
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wiring is proply there al ready you just need to find it
that was my initial thought. there is a blanking plate where the cigarette lighter is in other models...
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Re: car cigarette lighters

Altough you can splice into wires, you need to be sure that the circuit used is sufficiently heavy duty. You might not now need it for your GPS or whatever, but some attachments that go into these sockets draw serious current.

Haynes manuals always used to do some fairly good wiring diagrams. You should be able to identify the circuit used by upper models of your car, and tap into that.

I'd have thought a decent car accessory shop (not necessarily halfords) should be able to supply a cigarette lighter kit.
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Re: car cigarette lighters

Have a look at http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ldID=&doy=21m7 and http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...9758&doy=21m7D . Halfords do the socket as well.
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probably why i couldn't find anything anywhere, would never have thought of looking for something called "accessory socket". cheers
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probably why i couldn't find anything anywhere, would never have thought of looking for something called "accessory socket". cheers
I searched for "car cigar lighter" which gives better results than cigarette.
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I searched for "car cigar lighter" which gives better results than cigarette.
you appear to be right, it does. Now then... with http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...9758&doy=21m7# ... I am right in assuming I would need two lengths of wire, one which will go to ground somewhere along the chassis, and one which will trail off to positive somewhere.. This seems a lot easier now i know you can buy the sockets easily...

So, if i get two lengths of wire which can cope with 16 amp loads I should be ok on the wiring side, the next step is just to find where to connect them in-car?
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direct to the battery, use 30A cable and put a 20A fuse in line with it
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you appear to be right, it does. Now then... with http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...9758&doy=21m7# ... I am right in assuming I would need two lengths of wire, one which will go to ground somewhere along the chassis, and one which will trail off to positive somewhere.. This seems a lot easier now i know you can buy the sockets easily...

So, if i get two lengths of wire which can cope with 16 amp loads I should be ok on the wiring side, the next step is just to find where to connect them in-car?
Your best / safest bet would be to run the positive direct from the battery with an in line fuse (suitably rated) and keep the negative as short as possible and direct to chassis ensuring a clean connection...
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connecting directly to the battery, as in the same place the battery terminals are, under the bonnet?
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Re: car cigarette lighters

Accessory is your pointer - the Haynes manual wiring diagram should point you to where the + switched accessory fuse is - normally a lighter circuit spurs from this so that it is only live with the key in & turned.

Any nearby earthing point can be used for the -
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Accessory is your pointer - the Haynes manual wiring diagram should point you to where the + switched accessory fuse is - normally a lighter circuit spurs from this so that it is only live with the key in & turned.

Any nearby earthing point can be used for the -
cheers... i guess the terminology is all off, i've just been looking for cigarette lighter all along... cheers all
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