Networking question

[MadGamer]

Ok, the custom PC im having built wont have a modem in it. Now the PC that im using at the moment has an internal broadband modem. Do i need to buy a wireless router with a modem to make my custom built one acess the internet or do i just buy a normal wireless router and the internet is provided by the broadband internal modem on the one im using now?

Also what router, how easy are they to set up and can i use the files and Settings transfer wizard to transfer all my music? (1318 tracks 4.54GB)

[nffc]

Originally Posted by Wayne A

Ok, the custom PC im having built wont have a modem in it. Now the PC that im using at the moment has an internal broadband modem. Do i need to buy a wireless router with a modem to make my custom built one acess the internet or do i just buy a normal wireless router and the internet is provided by the broadband internal modem on the one im using now?

Depends on the type of modem. If it connects directly to the net via an RJ11-phone lead not an RJ45 then you have two options:
- get an NIC in the PC if you don't already and use a crossover with ICS to connect the 2nd PC to the internet (you'll need the first PC on)
- preferred option get a wireless card for each PC and a combined router/modem, discard the internal modem and set up the connection to use the router making the 2 PCs clients- you don't need either switched on just the router.

Also what router, how easy are they to set up

Any of the Belkin, Linksys and Netgear range is fine. They take about 5 minutes to get working, longer to play with the settings. If you're opting for the wireless turn on the security. Also try and get external antennas for the cards not the ones that just screw in because the wiring down the back of the PC will weaken the signal. And if your PC/room is anything like mine it will look like Gravelly Hill anyway

can i use the files and Settings transfer wizard to transfer all my music? (1318 tracks 4.54GB)

Yes but it's easier to just share the folder over the LAN and copy it over manually. 4.5 GB at 54 Mb/s will still take a while though but that will be the same regardless of the method you take :P

[MadGamer]

Originally Posted by nffc

Depends on the type of modem. If it connects directly to the net via an RJ11-phone lead not an RJ45 then you have two options:
- get an NIC in the PC if you don't already and use a crossover with ICS to connect the 2nd PC to the internet (you'll need the first PC on)
- preferred option get a wireless card for each PC and a combined router/modem, discard the internal modem and set up the connection to use the router making the 2 PCs clients- you don't need either switched on just the router.

Any of the Belkin, Linksys and Netgear range is fine. They take about 5 minutes to get working, longer to play with the settings. If you're opting for the wireless turn on the security. Also try and get external antennas for the cards not the ones that just screw in because the wiring down the back of the PC will weaken the signal. And if your PC/room is anything like mine it will look like Gravelly Hill anyway

Yes but it's easier to just share the folder over the LAN and copy it over manually. 4.5 GB at 54 Mb/s will still take a while though but that will be the same regardless of the method you take :P

The modem is a PCI internal. What about the Linksys WRT54G? Would Transmitters help the signal? If there is an online documentation or a guide to setting the secirty in the router, is there a link?

[paulyoung666]

why dont you just put the modem in the new pc

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

why dont you just put the modem in the new pc

Might be a built in NIC not a modem knowing Wayne lol

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Paul

Might be a built in NIC not a modem knowing Wayne lol

[dilli-theclaw]

As you are still on aoHELL, I suggest you keep/print off the info from this web site.

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7066

[MadGamer]

Originally Posted by Paul

Might be a built in NIC not a modem knowing Wayne lol

haha.... seriously, so i would have to buy a wireless router with a modem, otherwise if i dont i will have to have the current PC on all the time to access the Internet?

[nffc]

Ditch the modem... as for the Linksys or any other router check it's got a modem in- as if it doesn't, you'll need to buy a separate one. (Unlike people on ntl who have the opposite. (We have 1 Mb/s via SACM taken into the Belkin router and it's fine, I'd assume the analog with a modem included works well too)... in terms of specifics I can't remember off the top of my head whether that model does include a modem- check...

The signal will be fine as long as:
- the router is placed centrally to your PCs (ie not tucked away in the corner of the house
- the antenna on the PC is not buried in the wiring at the back and is relatively clear of metallic obstructions (so basically be careful if your PC looks like M6 Junction 6)
- nothing like large water tanks, in-wall metallic obstructions, microwave ovens or 2.4 GHz cordless phones are in the way
- make sure there's the minimum possible number of walls between the router and the PCs- if necessary draw a plan of the house and where you may wanna site your PCs and site the router accordingly
- if you can wall-mount then do so, higher is better (like TV aerials)
- if you can adjust the rotation of the aerials on the router then do so - and set it on mixed-polarisation which means your antenna will get as good a signal if it's oriented up-down or left-right
- better still try and get one with unscrewable aerials then you can get amplifiers, bigger aerials etc etc...

Anyway I'd be seriously going over old ground, there's several info threads on wireless and security etc (which could do with being written into articles )

[MadGamer]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

As you are still on aoHELL, I suggest you keep/print off the info from this web site.

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7066

ahhh thats interseting because when the 12 months is up im moving back to demon. So i may have to play with the setup?

Originally Posted by Wayne A

The modem is a PCI internal. What about the Linksys WRT54G? Would Transmitters help the signal? If there is an online documentation or a guide to setting the secirty in the router, is there a link?

Typing 'set up security linksys wrt54g' into a Google search bar produced this on the first page of results:

http://www.columbia.edu/acis/access/...ecurity-2.html

Do you even try to find out such basic factual information for yourself before posting questions and expecting other people to do the work for you?

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Wayne A

ahhh thats interseting because when the 12 months is up im moving back to demon. So i may have to play with the setup?

You may well have to yes.

[Millay]

I would personally attach the two computers together over a ethernet connection, 4,5gb is going to take a lifetime to transfer over a wirless connection..

[nffc]

4.5 GB over a 54 Mb/s connection:

4.5 GB = 4.5 x 1024 = 4608 MB = 4608 x 8 = 36864 Mb

time = size / speed = 36864 Mb / 54 Mb/s = 682.67 s (or about 11 mins 20 s)

[Millay]

Originally Posted by nffc

4.5 GB over a 54 Mb/s connection:

4.5 GB = 4.5 x 1024 = 4608 MB = 4608 x 8 = 36864 Mb

time = size / speed = 36864 Mb / 54 Mb/s = 682.67 s (or about 11 mins 20 s)

I'll give you £20 if you can show me proof of a wirless netowrk transfering data at that speed