euthanesia

danielf · 19-09-2003, 00:53

Since we seem to be discussing some of the bigger issues (as usual), what are your thoughts about this.

Personally, I feel that if someone is terminally ill, suffers to such an extent that the person feels he/she would rather go with dignity rather than have things run it's (inevitable) course, that person should have the right to do so (go with dignity), and a qualified doctor should be allowed (but not obliged) to aid in this.

Apologies to anyone who feels this topic is inappropriate at this moment in their life.

Jerrek · 19-09-2003, 01:05

Turn off livesupport if the person whats that? Yes.

Help someone that wants to commit suicide do so by commiting an act of murder? No.

danielf · 19-09-2003, 01:12

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Turn off livesupport if the person whats that? Yes.

Help someone that wants to commit suicide do so by commiting an act of murder? No.

There's other options. You could set up a laptop, and have the 'victim' press a sequence of keys that will lead to the lethal injection. Obviously, someone will have to set it up...

Edit: Remember, I am going on the premise of terminally ill people who feel their life is no longer dignified here.

Bifta · 19-09-2003, 01:37

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There's other options. You could set up a laptop, and have the 'victim' press a sequence of keys that will lead to the lethal injection. Obviously, someone will have to set it up...

Accessory to commit murder ... bad plan.

kronas · 19-09-2003, 02:33

my view on this is clear and simple if you are alive then you should enjoy life and live it until you naturally die if you are living by the aid of machines you should still live if you dont value life you should never have been born

Lord Nikon · 19-09-2003, 04:00

and if you are suffering from a terminal illness, which cannot be treated, and will give you a long lingering painful death as your faculties are slowly stripped from you?

kronas · 19-09-2003, 14:32

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and if you are suffering from a terminal illness, which cannot be treated, and will give you a long lingering painful death as your faculties are slowly stripped from you?

its ultimately the individuals right but i still wouldnt let myself 'go' i want to live for as long as i can even if it means being in pain

*note im in pain anyway sometimes(quite regularly) doesent mean i want to die

Nemesis · 19-09-2003, 14:48

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its ultimately the individuals right but i still wouldnt let myself 'go' i want to live for as long as i can even if it means being in pain

*note im in pain anyway sometimes(quite regularly) doesent mean i want to die

Appreciated and understood, but your young and have things to live for ...

kronas · 19-09-2003, 14:51

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Appreciated and understood, but your young and have things to live for ...

i have nothing to live for i try and do something it blows up in my face every single time

whats that young BS age doesent mean a thing to me except if its related to certain age requiarement activites its about the person inside there understanding maturity etc

Nemesis · 19-09-2003, 14:59

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i have nothing to live for i try and do something it blows up in my face every single time[/B]

Happens to us all mate, in many ways, welcome to life.

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whats that young BS age doesent mean a thing to me except if its related to certain age requiarement activites its about the person inside there understanding maturity etc

There will come a reality as you get older. Decisions will become harder and responsibility grows considerably. Knowledge of your own mortality dwells at times.

I personally would not want to be a burden to the state or my children. If I was terminally ill, or with Alzheimers/Parkinsons/Dementure I wouldn't be able to make concious decisions myself anyway. My personal view has been made now, so that my children do not have to make any difficult decisions themselves.

orangebird · 19-09-2003, 15:02

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Appreciated and understood, but your young and have things to live for ...

My friend did at 19 after an undiagnosed appendix burst. However, before she actually died, she got septisemia (sp?), two heart attacks, haemorraged twice and if she had come out of this coma, would've been brain damaged and blind. I didn't want her to live, and neither did her mother - does that make us bad people who don't deserve to be born?

kronas · 19-09-2003, 15:09

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My personal view has been made now, so that my children do not have to make any difficult decisions themselves.

and i have made my choice and stick by it

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I didn't want her to live, and neither did her mother

its sad to hear that story...but i care about human life if i was in a position where i had a wife or someone in my family in a very unfortunate position healthwise i would do everything to help them if it means helping them live longer

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does that make us bad people who don't deserve to be born?

im my eye yes i cant believe you can end someones life just like that you may say its not an easy decision but to terminate someones life like that is totally disgusting

Nemesis · 19-09-2003, 15:09

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My friend did at 19 after an undiagnosed appendix burst. However, before she actually died, she got septisemia (sp?), two heart attacks, haemorraged twice and if she had come out of this coma, would've been brain damaged and blind. I didn't want her to live, and neither did her mother - does that make us bad people who don't deserve to be born?

Very sorry to hear that.

No, not in my opinion. Her quality of life needs to be taken into consideration, more than how you may be feeling. If there is no quality of life, is there a life to live ?

Nemesis · 19-09-2003, 15:11

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and i have made my choice and stick by it

and I acknowledge and respect your decision.

kronas · 19-09-2003, 15:12

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No, not in my opinion. Her quality of life needs to be taken into consideration, more than how you may be feeling. If there is no quality of life, is there a life to live ?

again everyone has a freedom of choice they can choose to do what they want but if i was put in a position where i had to choose/carry it out i would catigorically refuse

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and I acknowledge and respect your decision.

same here just trying put my point across as you are