Lagging on games

th'engineer · 03-08-2004, 21:11

Junior engineer has asked me to post this question.

For 6 months playing game sonline was great. However recently over the last 2 months the speed at which the internet games are being played has decreased. I normally have a ping of 50. But now it ranges from 50 to 600 and i cant play anymore. It is very annoying because at a cruicial moment my ping flys out of control. The server i play on is provided by Game Serve could you advise me how to get better pings

th'eng, getting serious stick of junior eng any help appreciated

Jon M · 03-08-2004, 21:14

If you use Firefox I suggest closing it.. it seems to be a real bandwidth hog in my experience.

But it could be any number of things causing it... anti-virus software, firewall software, p2p filesharing software (an obvious one really) and more or less anything that has access to the internet...

Also, it may be worthwhile playing with your proxy settings to an alternative .. especially if you've changed them in the past.

th'engineer · 03-08-2004, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

If you use Firefox I suggest closing it.. it seems to be a real bandwidth hog in my experience.

But it could be any number of things causing it... anti-virus software, firewall software, p2p filesharing software (an obvious one really) and more or less anything that has access to the internet...

We have tried other configurations of PC minus firewall with firewall witout antivirus with antivirus etc.
I have exhausted all PC configs have a few Pcs so not short of different configs.

Could we have a new bandwidth hog round here causing it we have had problems in this area on the datastreams recently

Jon M · 03-08-2004, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer

We have tried other configurations of PC minus firewall with firewall witout antivirus with antivirus etc.
I have exhausted all PC configs have a few Pcs so not short of different configs.

Could we have a new bandwidth hog round here causing it we have had problems in this area on the datastreams recently

Quite possible.. although I've not got any inside NTL traffic analysis to back that up.... most recently the Doom3 leak has made quite an impact.

It's worth doing some traceroutes to see if there's any hop that is taking an especially long time.. it's not unknown for NTL to have a bad link in the chain.

th'engineer · 03-08-2004, 21:26

Just wondered if it was possible for one of the NTL engineers on the forum to check out the local UBR for balance

IMplODemE · 03-08-2004, 23:19

I had this issue while playing BF1942 and SoF2. I had originally set my Linksys router not to allow OR reply to ping requests. I changed this to allow ping requests and have not had a problem since. Not sure why, but after hours of trying to configure the PC, this is what worked.

carlingman · 04-08-2004, 00:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer

Junior engineer has asked me to post this question.

For 6 months playing game sonline was great. However recently over the last 2 months the speed at which the internet games are being played has decreased. I normally have a ping of 50. But now it ranges from 50 to 600 and i cant play anymore. It is very annoying because at a cruicial moment my ping flys out of control. The server i play on is provided by Game Serve could you advise me how to get better pings

th'eng, getting serious stick of junior eng any help appreciated

Which modem is it ???

Maybe lucky if your on a motorola and be able change your own UBR settings.

Wouldnt bother with changing proxies as they are predominantly for port 8080 web browsing traffic and wont improve your pings at all.

Trace Routes posted are the best way forward to check the obvious.

th'engineer · 04-08-2004, 05:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlingman

Which modem is it ???

Maybe lucky if your on a motorola and be able change your own UBR settings.

Wouldnt bother with changing proxies as they are predominantly for port 8080 web browsing traffic and wont improve your pings at all.

Trace Routes posted are the best way forward to check the obvious.

STB yes people have them 2000 series box, i really need help on this getting stick from the one who shall be obeyed as well, know the easy thing is to phone tech support but really can they help, the pc isin the loft with no phone connection

Ignition · 04-08-2004, 13:59

Rochdale uBR1 card 6 is quite lightly loaded right now and seems unlikely that load on it would jump from current levels to becoming an issue.

th'engineer · 04-08-2004, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b

Rochdale uBR1 card 6 is quite lightly loaded right now and seems unlikely that load on it would jump from current levels to becoming an issue.

Thanks for the reply appreciated any other suggestions to assist with the lag

BBKing · 05-08-2004, 22:09

Can confirm what n00b says, th'eng's STB is online at 750k, upstream usage 27% (negligible), RF parameters that I can see look good. Nothing obviously stands out, in fact.

Does this happen with the relevant PC directly connected?

Complete traceroutes to relevant servers would help identify any bottlenecks.

th'engineer · 06-08-2004, 06:44

Tom will get relevant junior engineer to complete some traceroutes thank you for checking.

Steve

th'engineer · 06-08-2004, 15:11

As requested for you response regards Steve

Tracing route to server1.game-serve.co.uk [195.20.108.195]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.2.1
2 14 ms 14 ms 109 ms 10.23.48.1
3 604 ms 454 ms 192 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.189]
4 426 ms 412 ms 275 ms mant-t2core-b-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
.169]
5 618 ms 371 ms 96 ms man-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.61]
6 193 ms 302 ms 329 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
7 69 ms 27 ms 69 ms gfd-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.130
8 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms tele-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.74]
9 41 ms 192 ms 28 ms 212.250.14.18
10 206 ms 14 ms 27 ms server1.game-serve.co.uk [195.20.108.195]

th'engineer · 06-08-2004, 15:13

Tracing route to www.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.30]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.2.1
2 151 ms 82 ms 14 ms 10.23.48.1
3 206 ms 123 ms 206 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.61]
4 123 ms 110 ms 178 ms mant-t2core-a-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [213.104.242
.41]
5 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms man-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.57]
6 439 ms 261 ms <10 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
7 357 ms 137 ms 192 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

8 206 ms 206 ms 234 ms win-dc-a-v900.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.162]
9 82 ms 192 ms 124 ms www.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.30]

Correct me if i am wrong but its a bit bobbins that lads

th'engineer · 06-08-2004, 17:05

Tracing route to server1.game-serve.co.uk [195.20.108.195]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.2.1
2 453 ms 440 ms 97 ms 10.23.48.1
3 247 ms 96 ms 179 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.189]

4 563 ms 618 ms 96 ms mant-t2core-b-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [213.104.242
.169]
5 426 ms 192 ms 96 ms man-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.61]
6 288 ms 439 ms 384 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

7 123 ms 330 ms 137 ms gfd-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.130]

8 234 ms 82 ms 28 ms tele-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.74]

9 68 ms 55 ms 14 ms 212.250.14.18
10 137 ms 27 ms 28 ms server1.game-serve.co.uk [195.20.108.195]