[Merged] Spam with ntl email.

[Nub]

Hi Guys,

I was wondering if many other folk are getting similar emails with this title or a slight variation of it?

I am getting around 20 of these junk emails per day and it's starting to get on my nerves. Sometimes Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m not even a recipient, some other paul.*@ntlworld.com.

I've always been very careful never to get my email address on spam lists and Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ve been successful for nearly 5 years till now.

Any advice or anything?

Thanks
Paul

This is the content of the emails, nearlly always the same...

Loan approval in as little as 24 hours

MORTGAGE RATES REACH 7-MONTH LOW!

http://www.fast-lenderz-search.biz/

[Neil]

Yes-all you can do is complain to the originating ISP, not ntl.

[Matth]

Are NTL rolling out antispam in the email servers - every single bit of the spam I get, comes through open relays/open proxies that are already on most good blacklists.

PS. If you get stuff that does NOT have your email in TO: or CC:, then it's been BCC: addressed - and BCC spam is susceptible to filtering using a "my address is not in TO or CC" rule.

I do get them, but they are filtered out by my SPAM zapper - I use POPFile now - so far I'm well impressed with it.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Nub

on my nerves. Sometimes Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m not even a recipient, some other paul.*@ntlworld.com.

I've always been very careful never to get my email address on spam lists and Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ve been successful for nearly 5 years till now.

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We all get spam. When you say you're not the recipient, the spam probably gets sent out to a list and you're in the bcc (blind carbon copy) field, so you don't show up as a recipient, but you are on the list.

Regarding being careful, that's obviously good, but spammers do try to guess email addresses, and there's little you can do about that. If/when it becomes too much, you may want to consider spam blocking software. I don't know the program PEM suggested, but I find spampal quite effective. It's free as well

Originally Posted by danielf

I don't know the program PEM suggested, but I find spampal quite effective. It's free as well

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ - Free as well

[MovedGoalPosts]

Originally Posted by danielf

We all get spam. When you say you're not the recipient, the spam probably gets sent out to a list and you're in the bcc (blind carbon copy) field, so you don't show up as a recipient, but you are on the list.

Regarding being careful, that's obviously good, but spammers do try to guess email addresses, and there's little you can do about that. If/when it becomes too much, you may want to consider spam blocking software. I don't know the program PEM suggested, but I find spampal quite effective. It's free as well

I dont run antispam software, use ntl email addys and yet dont get any spam, (yet), and havent done so for a number of months. Incredible but true.

How you might ask? Simply choose email addys that aren't readily guessable by the spammers, who have programs that write all sorts of combinations of likely addys. The spammers don't care cost the cost of the email is nothing, and if they get blocked they'll just find another relay to work through. They might know if the email bounces back to them as undeliverable, but if it doesn't bounce they know they have a live one, and keep firing the stuff at you.

So I dont use the firstname.surname or intialsurname type combinations. And I dont use my forum name as an addy either! I use names easily remembered by me, but with a few numbers thrown in. So my addy could have become firstname-###-surname@ (where # is a number).

[etccarmageddon]

if there's an 'unsubscribe' option with the spam - dont touch it - it's a way of them getting you to verify your address is a live one!

[sherer]

the fact is the ISPs should be filtering this sort of stuff out but NTL can't be bothered to spend any money on this. Both BT and AOL offer this as well as AV scanning on mails. So do hotmail and that's free !

until the ISPs start to take responsibility there's not alot we can do.

To use the ISPs reasoning when a road is busy with traffic i should take responsibility for this and build a new one myself

[Neil]

Originally Posted by sherer

the fact is the ISPs should be filtering this sort of stuff out but NTL can't be bothered to spend any money on this. Both BT and AOL offer this as well as AV scanning on mails. So do hotmail and that's free !

until the ISPs start to take responsibility there's not alot we can do.

To use the ISPs reasoning when a road is busy with traffic i should take responsibility for this and build a new one myself

I actually disagree (to an extent)

Although I agree ISPs could do more, it's not that different to the amount of junk mail that arrives in my letterbox each day.

Spam is a way of life these days I'm afraid, it's a case of taking your own steps to stopping it IMO.

[Graham F]

Originally Posted by Neil

I actually disagree (to an extent)

Although I agree ISPs could do more, it's not that different to the amount of junk mail that arrives in my letterbox each day.

Spam is a way of life these days I'm afraid, it's a case of taking your own steps to stopping it IMO.

When I worked for ntl i had an ntl work email addy and then I have a hotmail addy as well. Guess which one got the most spam?!?!





Well put it this way I would get abt 30 spam emails a a day to my work ntl email addy, and I get abt 1 spam email a WEEK to my hotmail addy Then whenever I spoke to IT about the probelm they blamed it all on me saying that I gave my email addy out

[biggaydog]

Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts

They might know if the email bounces back to them as undeliverable, but if it doesn't bounce they know they have a live one, and keep firing the stuff at you.

You could take the option I took. I signed up for an email account at www.fastmail.co.uk . If you receive spam there they give you the option of manually bouncing spam emails, and enhanced account have configurable spam blocking (as well as automatic virus scanning). You can also set up personalities so you don't necessarily have to change your email addy! Just a thought...

[Nub]

Thanks for all the advice on this. I do agree that spam is a way of life now but i am just annoyed it's leaked into my NTL account.

I'll take a look at these anti spam software tools; hopefully they will sort things out!

Take care all
Paul.

[Florence]

Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts

I dont run antispam software, use ntl email addys and yet dont get any spam, (yet), and havent done so for a number of months. Incredible but true.

How you might ask? Simply choose email addys that aren't readily guessable by the spammers, who have programs that write all sorts of combinations of likely addys. The spammers don't care cost the cost of the email is nothing, and if they get blocked they'll just find another relay to work through. They might know if the email bounces back to them as undeliverable, but if it doesn't bounce they know they have a live one, and keep firing the stuff at you.

So I dont use the firstname.surname or intialsurname type combinations. And I dont use my forum name as an addy either! I use names easily remembered by me, but with a few numbers thrown in. So my addy could have become firstname-###-surname@ (where # is a number).

Try setting one up now!! We had 2 new emails set up one the primary one has 100+ porn spam and only 1 email a month that has out addy on and thats the SACM bill.. Its never been registered with any website apart from screwfix direct but the spam was already coming before the sign up.. the email is simply hubbys name.. I tried to make a new one and they don't allow me to choose an email they give you a choice of 2 or 3 and all easy for spam...... their proxies are a mine field for spam using the open relays.. when the proxies was off we had less...... now they are back on we are over 100 a day its sick.....

[MovedGoalPosts]

You need a complex user name, simple names get guessed.

You can change the username using this link http://www.ntlworld.com/help/custome...rPassword.html It will change your email addy to the new user name (old email will probably come through on it for a few days - it did to me), It will probably also change the ntlweb space name too (never bothered to check / use mine).