UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
19-10-2020, 22:01
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Yes, Bozza's not very good at :-reading/concentrating/detail/monogamy/listening to his own Covid advice/running the country.
Maybe he's good at colouring in or something suchlike. Everyone is good at something, I think.
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It was probably looked at by an army of civil servants who gave it the thumbs up but it turns out they were working for the EU.
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19-10-2020, 22:01
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Yes if I was PM, I would totally listen to the totally irrelevant silly Hat brigade.
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19-10-2020, 22:03
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Yes if I was PM, I would totally listen to the totally irrelevant silly Hat brigade.
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Amen to that.
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19-10-2020, 22:32
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Yes if I was PM, I would totally listen to the totally irrelevant silly Hat brigade.
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That's because - even as PM - you would be too busy arguing with jfman on CableForum to have time to listen to them. 
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19-10-2020, 23:24
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Yes, Bozza's not very good at :-reading/concentrating/detail/monogamy/listening to his own Covid advice/running the country.
Maybe he's good at colouring in or something suchlike. Everyone is good at something, I think.
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Just like you, eh? Mr K.
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20-10-2020, 08:45
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
I was in a fun meeting with one of my customers Yesterday which included communicating 2021 pricing. We have been trying to hold off as long as possible as we didn't know what would be in place next year but finally, we have had to price for no deal.
The feedback from the customer was that our estimate of extra distribution and fulfillment costs were low compared to our competitors even though they contributed 40% of our price rise for sales to the customers UK site. We should have charged more!
They definitely noticed the percentage difference in rise between their UK site and their site in Spain though!
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20-10-2020, 09:55
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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They definitely noticed the percentage difference in rise between their UK site and their site in Spain though!
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Sadly, that makes the UK less competitive when crunch decisions on basing future operations are made.
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20-10-2020, 10:16
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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It was probably looked at by an army of civil servants who gave it the thumbs up but it turns out they were working for the EU.
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I know you think facts are irrelevant, but the WA was also reviewed and signed off by their Special Advisers (SpAds), who are political appointees to support the Ministers and PM.
It’s almost as if you’re trying to avoid the fact that Boris was responsible for promoting, and getting passed by ensuring all Tory MPs voted for, the WA Bill.
Blamestorming at it’s finest - It wasn’t Boris, he didn’t do it, he was on holiday when it didn’t happen...
As was reported at the time
https://www.theparliamentaryreview.c...awal-agreement
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While the majority of the new agreement was similar to May’s previous version, key differences were agreed, specifically concerning the Irish border and May’s proposed backstop.
Under Johnson’s deal, Northern Ireland will remain in the UK’s custom territory but will continue to adhere to EU rules surrounding tariffs and quotas to avoid a hard border being constructed on the island of Ireland.
In terms of the regulation of goods, Northern Ireland will remain aligned to EU rules. This means that while there will no need to check goods at the border of Ireland and Northern Ireland, it will add checks between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.
Moreover, Johnson agreed in principle to maintain the “level playing field” with the EU, meaning the UK will voluntarily agree to align itself with EU standards on the environment, tax and worker’s rights.
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20-10-2020, 10:29
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
The very notion of "backstop" is that if good faith had been followed by the EU, then it wouldn't be needed. Why should've anybody been bothered by something that was supposed to be not needed? It was never (allegedly, as if the EU would play dirty tricks like that  ) supposed to be something that would be implemented.
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20-10-2020, 10:37
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
I think that the term "level playing field" is open to interpretation as to scope. Personally, I believe it also extends to free-trade, like if Canada can have a trade deal, on a level playing field, so can we.
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The very notion of "backstop" is that if good faith had been followed by the EU, then it wouldn't be needed. Why should've anybody been bothered by something that was supposed to be not needed? It was never (allegedly, as if the EU would play dirty tricks like that ) supposed to be something that would be implemented. |
Anyway, the NI assembly can vote the backstop down every 4 years. One of the principal differences between May's roll-over and Boris' deal.
I'm no Boris fan, but at least it got us out of the EU.
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20-10-2020, 10:50
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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I know you think facts are irrelevant, but the WA was also reviewed and signed off by their Special Advisers (SpAds), who are political appointees to support the Ministers and PM.
It’s almost as if you’re trying to avoid the fact that Boris was responsible for promoting, and getting passed by ensuring all Tory MPs voted for, the WA Bill.
Blamestorming at it’s finest - It wasn’t Boris, he didn’t do it, he was on holiday when it didn’t happen...
As was reported at the time
https://www.theparliamentaryreview.c...awal-agreement |
As an impartial observer it seems to me that your getting your knickers in a twist over nothing,it'll all get sorted without you huffing and puffing and telling people what they are thinking, relax chill out and enjoy the ride out of the EU's grasp.
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20-10-2020, 11:00
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
I'm a fan of Boris Johnson in a limited and specific way but this is a bad decision.
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Boris Johnson rejects EU olive branch over Brexit talks
Boris Johnson has rejected an olive branch from Brussels designed to restart failing Brexit talks in time to prevent a no deal.
Michel Barnier had tried to assuage some of the prime minister’s concerns about the state of negotiations in a telephone conversation with his counterpart Lord Frost on Monday afternoon.
The EU’s chief negotiator had said the EU would be happy to hold talks on “all subjects, and based on legal texts” – a demand Mr Johnson had made as a condition for restarting negotiations.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...rtan-ntp-feeds
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20-10-2020, 11:05
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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You posted the wrong link, Andrew.
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-eu...ondon-12108524
If you meant the one I've provided, you'll see that Barnier's statement is essentially weasel worded.
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I confirmed that the EU remains available to intensify talks in London this week, on all subjects, and based on legal texts," Mr Barnier posted on Twitter after the pair's conversation.
"We now wait for the UK's reaction.
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No ground has been given by the EU and Boris mustn't blink.
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20-10-2020, 11:12
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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I doubt very much that he will see that given past performance 
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20-10-2020, 11:26
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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You posted the wrong link, Andrew.
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Thanks, duly amended it.
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