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19-10-2020, 19:47
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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If Party A revokes part of an international treaty it makes with Party B, which is the perfidious party? A or B.
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I notice you commenced your example subsequent to what happened to produce such a response.
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19-10-2020, 19:56
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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If Party A revokes part of an international treaty it makes with Party B, which is the perfidious party? A or B.
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Although I've previously commented on this, I'll add it depends on the reason for revocation. If part B were not acting in good faith, they are the perfidious ones.
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19-10-2020, 20:04
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
From today's(19th Oct) meeting of the Joint Committee.
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Vice-President Šefčovič also recalled his strong concerns regarding the lack of progress on the decisions that need to be taken by the Joint Committee, as set out in the Protocol. These decision cover in particular workable arrangements for an EU presence in Northern Ireland, criteria for goods to be considered ‘not at risk' of moving into the Union and the exemption of agricultural subsidies from State aid rules, as well as a Decision correcting errors and omissions in Annex 2 of the Protocol.
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If that continues, GB would not be able to send even mail and parcels to NI. The NI protocol would've already been broken, so how can be further broken by any bill?
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19-10-2020, 20:06
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Although I've previously commented on this, I'll add it depends on the reason for revocation. If part B were not acting in good faith, they are the perfidious ones.
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Isn’t "good faith" adhering to the treaty you signed?
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19-10-2020, 20:22
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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I notice you commenced your example subsequent to what happened to produce such a response.
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I'm not sure what you mean by that? 
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19-10-2020, 20:23
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Isn’t "good faith" adhering to the treaty you signed?
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not if it was written in bad faith.
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19-10-2020, 20:24
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Isn’t "good faith" adhering to the treaty you signed?
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19-10-2020, 20:24
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Isn’t "good faith" adhering to the treaty you signed?
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And how is the EU adhering to any treaty?
Political Declaration.
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XII. FISHING OPPORTUNITIES
71. The Parties should cooperate bilaterally and internationally to ensure fishing at sustainable
levels, promote resource conservation, and foster a clean, healthy and productive marine
environment, noting that the United Kingdom will be an independent coastal state.
72. While preserving regulatory autonomy, the Parties should cooperate on the development of
measures for the conservation, rational management and regulation of fisheries, in a nondiscriminatory
manner. They will work closely with other coastal states and in international
fora, including to manage shared stocks.
73. Within the context of the overall economic partnership the Parties should establish a new
fisheries agreement on, inter alia, access to waters and quota shares.
74. The Parties will use their best endeavours to conclude and ratify their new fisheries
agreement by 1 July 2020 in order for it to be in place in time to be used for determining
fishing opportunities for the first year after the transition period.
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19-10-2020, 20:59
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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not if it was written in bad faith.
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That’s a bit harsh on BoJo...
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19-10-2020, 21:01
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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That’s a bit harsh on BoJo...
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The bad bits went in before bojo got involved.
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19-10-2020, 21:06
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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The bad bits went in before bojo got involved.
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Nice try. He signed off on the whole thing. 
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19-10-2020, 21:15
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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The bad bits went in before bojo got involved.
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Funny - he said "it was a great prospect and a great deal, and I commend it to the House" and "it’s a wonderful deal".
https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status...691569152?s=21
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19-10-2020, 21:28
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
clearly someone never read the small print,but not to worry it's getting sorted now.
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19-10-2020, 21:43
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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clearly someone never read the small print,but not to worry it's getting sorted now.
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Yes, Bozza's not very good at :-reading/concentrating/detail/monogamy/listening to his own Covid advice/running the country.
Maybe he's good at colouring in or something suchlike. Everyone is good at something, I think.
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19-10-2020, 21:53
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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clearly someone never read the small print,but not to worry it's getting sorted now.
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Amen to that! 
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Brexit: Archbishops warn of 'disastrous precedent' over controversial Internal Market Bill in rare joint letter
That stark assessment relates to one minister's admission that the plan allows the government to break international law.
The archbishops of the UK and Ireland have penned a rare joint letter warning that the government's controversial new Brexit legislation could undermine trust between the four home nations.
Ahead of peers in the House of Lords debating the Internal Market Bill on Monday, the archbishops of Armagh, Canterbury, York, Wales and the Scottish Episcopal Church said that in its current form it could pose "enormous moral, as well as political and legal, consequences".
That stark assessment relates to one minister's own admission that the plan does allow the government to break international law in a "limited and specific way".
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https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-ar...etter-12107997
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