28-03-2019, 11:25
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Here you go. A Hard Brexiter is one who supports a Hard Brexit - FullFact definition:
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Here you go nothing - No such thing as a Hard Brexit.
You want to leave the EU you are not a Hard Brexiteer - you are just a Brexiteer.
End of discussion.
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28-03-2019, 11:34
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#722
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The thing that gets me is how you can have a protocol that you cannot ever unilaterally terminate in a temporary agreement! The backstop should end when the withdrawal agreement ends unless there is a separate agreement to the contrary.
Only the EU could come up with something so perverse. I'm not even so sure it could be enforced once the withdrawal agreement expires- once ended, where is the legal authority for the backstop?
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We agreed to it.
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Originally Posted by Mick
Here you go nothing - No such thing as a Hard Brexit.
You want to leave the EU you are not a Hard Brexiteer - you are just a Brexiteer.
End of discussion.
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Can you advise on terminology to use to create a distinction between those that favour leaving under the May deal with those who want no deal? And who favour a customs union. It’s three different things they Brexiteers can’t even agree upon.
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28-03-2019, 11:46
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#723
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by jfman
We agreed to it.
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Can you advise on terminology to use to create a distinction between those that favour leaving under the May deal with those who want no deal? And who favour a customs union. It’s three different things they Brexiteers can’t even agree upon.
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Who is this "we".
Perhaps the Remain supporters should set out what a customs union truly entails, if they're going keep going on about it.
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28-03-2019, 11:47
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Who is this "we".
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The United Kingdom.
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28-03-2019, 12:03
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#725
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Who is this "we".
Perhaps the Remain supporters should set out what a customs union truly entails, if they're going keep going on about it.
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We, the United Kingdom as represented by our Government led by Theresa May exercising Royal prerogative in respect of negotiating international treaties.
I didn’t lose my rights because I disagreed with the minority or the population who voted for Brexit.
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28-03-2019, 12:06
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#726
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Re: Brexit (New).
Government wants to bring back MV3 tomorrow. Do MPs grow up and accept this is what it is?
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28-03-2019, 12:20
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Re: Brexit (New).
Here’s some interesting data for those inclined to swallow Chukka’s spin that there is movement towards a referendum or a customs union. The voting breakdown shows the extent to which last nights indicative votes split along party lines and really don’t betray movement at all.
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28-03-2019, 12:24
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#728
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by Chris
Here’s some interesting data for those inclined to swallow Chukka’s spin that there is movement towards a referendum or a customs union. The voting breakdown shows the extent to which last nights indicative votes split along party lines and really don’t betray movement at all.
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I think the No no no no no no no no no's have it
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28-03-2019, 12:28
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by Damien
Government wants to bring back MV3 tomorrow. Do MPs grow up and accept this is what it is?
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if it does it will be defeated again that's if speaker allows it
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28-03-2019, 12:30
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by Dave42
if it does it will be defeated again that's if speaker allows it
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Better get stockpiling then before all the pot noodles and garlic have gone.
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28-03-2019, 12:32
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Better get stockpiling then before all the pot noodles and garlic have gone.
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better get ready for a long extension
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28-03-2019, 12:32
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by Damien
Government wants to bring back MV3 tomorrow. Do MPs grow up and accept this is what it is?
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Talk of decoupling the Withdrawal Agreement from the Political Declaration.
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Labour’s Ben Bradshaw asks if what Leadsom has announced for tomorrow is meaningful vote three. And he says separating the withdrawal agreement from the political declaration would be “intolerable” and “potentially illegal”. He says that would involve asking MPs to vote on a blind Brexit.
Leadsom sidesteps the questions, and in her reply she just talks about the importance of honouring the referendum.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
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28-03-2019, 12:34
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
May's be trying for years. They've only had a few days.
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they've been talking about all these options for the same amount of time.
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28-03-2019, 12:37
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by Chris
Here’s some interesting data for those inclined to swallow Chukka’s spin that there is movement towards a referendum or a customs union. The voting breakdown shows the extent to which last nights indicative votes split along party lines and really don’t betray movement at all.
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There may well be movement to a referendum or customs union but that data does not prove or disprove that theory. We would need another couple of years' data to do that. One vote is not a trend.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
they've been talking about all these options for the same amount of time.
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They've only had the chance to vote now.
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28-03-2019, 13:15
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#735
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Re: Brexit (New).
Government confirms tomorrow's vote ended to ensure UK can still delay Brexit until 22 May.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
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