Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I. - Page 91

devilincarnate · 11-02-2011, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

I have this horrid image of the tech undoing a zip, flopping his screen down and whipping out the TiVo

That may happen but you need to start getting worried when they ask which room you want it in and where you want it plugged in

Digital Fanatic · 11-02-2011, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

I have this horrid image of the tech undoing a zip, flopping his screen down and whipping out the TiVo

hahahaha

pauldavies83 · 11-02-2011, 20:52

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Did you not see the uproar when iplayer was windows only?

Yes, I was one of the uproarers

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Originally Posted by TheDon

They had to make it multi-platform due to their service obligations.

But the multi-platform implementation has been achieved via a third party (Adobe) - using this logic they should be providing content to Sky via their Anytime+ service, but they are not. Their service obligations only apply in commercially viable situations - the best deal for the majority of licence fee payers. Virgin's ~4m TV customers do not represent the majority of licence fee payers. In fact, Sky's 10m customers are more representative in their majority.

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Having a platform up and working, and then withdrawing from it to promote their own version is entirely against their service obligations.

If it is not commercially viable, it will be withdrawn. And rightly so.

Recent BBC Trust steer is that no further money should be spent on bespoke versions of iPlayer. Now the Android and iPad apps are out the door, I suspect that will be it and all funds are ploughed into the web version.

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Originally Posted by TheDon

They are obliged to provide content to ALL license fee payers, where it is technically possible. It's technically possible for them to provide vod on VM, they've proven this by having iplayer on there, therefore they HAVE to continue to offer it.

But what are the terms of supply for the content - do the BBC have to pay money to VM for this arrangement? How much does it cost the BBC operationally to send and encode the streams to VM - bearing in mind it is not in the same format as that streamed by the web iPlayer?

Imagine a scenario where the BBC decide maintaing this custom implementation is no longer viable. They would be well within their rights to remove it, because the content would still be freely available via the web iPlayer.

I wouldn't take anything for granted (other than BBC One/Two), and a freely available iPlayer. Anything else is a bonus.

jtaylor06 · 11-02-2011, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

I have this horrid image of the tech undoing a zip, flopping his screen down and whipping out the TiVo

I gave that post a double take! LOL!

undertakereddie · 11-02-2011, 21:33

@mediaboy any more info from your insiders about the new hd channels coming to virgin media from last week?

ken1234 · 11-02-2011, 23:48

as ayone got vm test site on new channels i lost it thanks

mersey70 · 12-02-2011, 07:39

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Originally Posted by ken1234

as ayone got vm test site on new channels i lost it thanks

Do you mean a list of channel testing on VM?

There are no new channels testing on VM right now.

braysoj1 · 12-02-2011, 10:28

game face and game files and tna impact need a series llink 4 sat

Digital Fanatic · 12-02-2011, 10:51

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Originally Posted by braysoj1

game face and game files and tna impact need a series llink 4 sat

I'll check this tonight for you.

muppetman11 · 12-02-2011, 10:56

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargain...=5&expand=true

If the ruling of this case went in the pub landlords favour could VM source sports channels from the likes of Al Jazeera , Canal+ etc for EPL football.

ken1234 · 12-02-2011, 11:06

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Originally Posted by mersey70

Do you mean a list of channel testing on VM?

There are no new channels testing on VM right now.

yes

12-02-2011, 11:14

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargain...=5&expand=true

If the ruling of this case went in the pub landlords favour could VM source sports channels from the likes of Al Jazeera , Canal+ etc for EPL football.

I'm sure VM doesn't have a commercial side though so pubs would still have to go through Sky, just not pay for the Sky Sports unless those channels are on Freesat or Freeview.

muppetman11 · 12-02-2011, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

I'm sure VM doesn't have a commercial side though so pubs would still have to go through Sky, just not pay for the Sky Sports unless those channels are on Freesat or Freeview.

Yes but this has ramifications for home users as well not just pubs.

Henkesghost · 12-02-2011, 11:28

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Originally Posted by undertakereddie

@mediaboy any more info from your insiders about the new hd channels coming to virgin media from last week?

Wasn't that just a wish list?

mersey70 · 12-02-2011, 12:01

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Yes but this has ramifications for home users as well not just pubs.

Perhaps but the domestic Greek sub that woman used costs about the same price as Sky, it was just cheaper than a commercial Sky/ESPN sub. The advice from the advocate general never for one moment said she had any right to use that domestic sub for the purpose she did.

I don't expect cheaper football in the home anytime soon personally. My fear is one big company will have total control with pan european rights for televised EPL in Europe.